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Open mike is your post.
For announcements, general discussion, whatever you choose.
The usual rules of good behaviour apply (see the Policy).
Step up to the mike …
https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/360906312/how-chris-bishop-trying-turn-kiwi-dream-support-base?cx_testId=16&cx_testVariant=cx_1&cx_artPos=3&utm_source=the_post_politics_stuff&utm_medium=referral#cxrecs_s
A warning on how bishop might scrape a few more crumbs from the table so the rich can keep on keeping on.
Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing
It’s very hard to identify & determine genuine remorse of criminal offenders even for experts and when there’s a lot at stake.
https://theconversation.com/its-important-for-criminal-sentences-but-how-do-we-know-if-someones-remorseful-269939
I think these issues apply more generally, e.g., when assessing, consciously and sub-consciously, politicians on their genuineness, authenticity, and believability and whether we should trust them. Obviously, the jury is still out on this, or is it?
Sadly, there are some well practised liars….and very worryingly, psychopaths of varying degrees.
And that's just the criminals…..
I don’t think all criminals are necessarily psychopaths and all psychopaths necessarily commit crimes. AFAIK, psychopathy is not a learned behaviour but crime is. We all learn to adopt certain behaviours and assume a persona depending on the situation-environment. Politicians tend to receive media-PR training that can mask certain things and accentuate others. So, how do we determine who’s ‘real & genuine’? This question appears to have become even harder to answer with the advent of AI.
Never said they were? Maybe its just a nuance/perception thing…but I was using satire re politicians? Seemed obvious to me, maybe not. I should add…attention : satire : )
Yes, sorry, I missed the satire.
Allgood, I have been told I have quite the dry (shaken,not stirred), sense of humour.
And yes re AI and Politicians. I have been reading up quite a lot on the subject.(Newsroom, RNZ, New Scientist et al) Some few are along the lines of : its too late, the genie is out of the bottle…others are not quite so dramatic.
The actual Human Brain seems to have an amazing capacity for Intelligent thought..I personally dont think AI is dangerous..yet.
Still…pays to keep up with the latest : )
AI has no agency, yet, but the way it’s being used already has profound implications.
Even our ‘spy agency’ expresses concern although they rarely, if ever, speak of the danger & threat [from] within.
https://www.nzsis.govt.nz/our-work/new-zealands-security-threat-environment/security-threat-environment-2025/view/3353
Our politicians and their networks of supporters are already using AI to further and force through their agendas and AI will increasingly permeate [into] our lives without us necessarily noticing.
Well, just to be clear, I am not in any way trying to minimise the current AI application by any RW Political groups .
Re a future potential AI risk factor, I have been interested in Films/Film making for many decades. When the first CGI movies came on, It was quite an amazing Tech leap. And I remember cynically thinking…well this wont ever be used by devious,malevolent Political types ?
And soon,sure enough…
I follow much of current US Political News and have seen the footage, fake/fake news….and sadly we seem to follow almost blindly…
Still…for the present, Artificial Intelligence does require Human Intelligence input to function for whatever purpose, good..or bad.
I try to be optimistic that the great Human minds ( of which there are countless ) will be ,and are now, looking to an Ethical future AI.
All good, I’m building on your comments
AI is trained on human input, with all its biases, etc., and designed to produce output that mimics human language (patterns). As long as people keep oversight & (final) control and put sufficient safety guardrails in place instead of letting it turn into a ‘wild West’, I think the (known) risks can be managed.
Since AI seems to be(come) a tool (or weapon?) of neoliberalism, one could argue that it lacks an adequate ethical foundation and/or that the ‘market’ ethics/morality is fundamentally flawed. At present, the dominant voice appears to be coming from technocratic oligarchs and political elites while the collective voice of the people is ominously absent. This doesn’t bode well for future moral order, social cohesion, and protection of the environment. RW politicians instinctively opt for a ‘light touch’ or ‘hands off/free’ approach, which is akin unleashing a GMO experiment on mass scale in the wild to see what happens.
I find this subject very fascinating (maybe from my many decades back introduction to SF…late night TV Fritz Lang's Metropolis, Asimov's 3 Laws of Robotics,Early Dr Who,THX1138,Black Mirror etc etc)
And yes re the Neolib/Ai Interface…..the sheer scale of the money invested is mind bending……they are sure going to want returns on that. And I see that, as a combination of Money and Power.
On the Ethics side and my Human Minds connectivity. You might well have heard of Timnit Gebru? I read about her ( and of course many others) She seemed to have come from a very differing perspective…and I note her early involvement with racism (and Police ) as part of her views. Looking and finding people like her and others..who question is always satisfying.
I have been aware for many years of our ever increasingly surveilled society,(incl Supermarket facial recognition, Police profiling, Internet Algorithms et al) and have commented about same here and elsewhere…
However, sadly most people are not too fazed? Probably the old its someone else's problem…until it isnt.
Anyway thankyou for your Input. Has exercised my mind..and memory : )
Matthew 7:16 sums it up for me. As previous posters imply, you can't assess the genuineness of remorse from statements (written or oral) or body language. Only by how people behave afterwards. So, depending on the nature and degree of the offence, most people should have one further chance. If they blow that one, then the odds are they're unreformable, and need to be dealt with accordingly.
How many chances would you give politicians? Three strikes and they’re out? When they drop their mask and show their true colours, such as Erica Stanford (see https://thestandard.nz/new-zealand-losing-democracy-rapidly/)?
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/581012/minister-raises-concerns-over-fish-heading-south-due-to-warming-waters
Nothing to do with climate change! You climate denying wanker!
This could be fun, realisation will impact eventually, probably quite hard.
At least he's trying to save the industry from bankruptcy from the resulting QMS breaches. Next will be calls for compensation as the blue cod fishery collapses because the kingies ate them, like they've demolished the Otago Harbour salmon sport fishery.
The pile-on by the CoC and it's gimps really fucking irks me.
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February 7, 2024
[…]
A school that was criticised as “experimental” and dubbed “hell” by students in 2019 has seen achievement levels soar and misbehaviour plummet under a new principal.
Peggy Burrows was installed as interim head of Haeata Community Campus for two terms in 2020, a composite super school born in 2017 after surrounding kura were merged.
Burrows never left and under her direction Haeata’s level one NCEA achievement has seen a six-fold increase from just 7.5% of the cohort passing when she joined to 47% in 2023.
Last year Haeata’s NCEA level two and three achievement also saw record highs at 54% and 57% – still below national averages, but a major success considering its history.
https://archive.li/dZA2J (the press)