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Open Mike 02/09/25

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  1. gsays 2

    A shout out to our colleagues in nursing who are on strike again today.

    Rest assured the strike is about safe staffing levels. In another cruel irony our local hospital Ed cannot go on strike because they don't have the staffing levels to provide life preserving services.

    The link is to a senior clinician representing Te Whatu Ora. He has a PhD but specialises in obfuscation and distraction.

    Once again Te Whatu Ora claims that the staffing level application is not fit for purpose, this is being so since the 90s.

    It's curious they wait till strike action is taken to seek to remedy this. It is not fit for purpose in the same way a checkbook is not fit for purpose if there isn't enough money in the account.

    It's also curious he didn't have details of major bargaining issues but was all over the number of operations and procedures that would be postponed.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2019002453/health-nz-on-nurses-midwives-and-healthcare-assistants-strike

    • Belladonna 2.1

      In another cruel irony our local hospital Ed cannot go on strike because they don't have the staffing levels to provide life preserving services.

      This would always be the case with an ED. By definition, they are an emergency service, and can never shut down because of the absence of critical personnel.
      Which is why this statement routinely appears in all hospital strike action notifications

      "Hospitals and all emergency departments would remain open during the strike, with a small number of staff providing life-preserving services."

      https://www.1news.co.nz/2025/09/02/more-than-36000-nurses-take-two-day-strike-action/

    • Patricia Bremner 2.2

      100% Nurses deserve better. Board buddies get an 80% rise!! Nurses offered 1% ….says it all about Luxon's "compassion" mentioned in his Maiden speech. All smoke and mirrors.

      • gsays 2.2.1

        I had to look up perfidy and it's the perfect word.

        My wife has taken on the role of delegate for her ward. One of the various challenges she is navigating is a colleague who is a single mother of two kids, living pay to pay. She pretty well can't afford to strike.

        This is in a profession, degree qualified. Ok, the union does have a hardship grant able to be applied for. It sounds like something established in the 90s.

        An initiative NZNO could consider is the likes of a Givealittle campaign. Package up a paragraph outlining the real issues, counter Brown's smears and Collins lies and give the public the chance to support with a few dollars.

        At the heart if this, they are taking action to protect the public.

    • Ad 3.1

      Exactly the kind of jobs New Zealand needs.

      Also an impressive move by Luxon to actually get Winston Peters to agree to this change in the "Golden Visa" to buy NZ properties over $5million. Noteworthy that Hipkins on RNZ this morning says it's not likely to be able to be reversed due to signing the CPTPP.

      And also great to see the Southland economic development agency hook some more funding for its southland base as Space Operations New Zealand.

      Investment Support For Southland Space Sector | Scoop News

    • Bearded Git 3.2

      Here is one post I found in 20 seconds:

      "Amazon's US East 1 data center, which is located in Virginia, and among other things hosts most non-classified government websites and applications, had a draw of 2.7 gigawatts in 2022.

      For reference, this is as much as the entire Seattle area power grid used that year, and about half as much as the entirety of New York City used that year."

      I think we need lots more specific detail on this Amazon proposal.

      • Ad 3.2.1

        Also the banner headline of "1000 jobs" is just a lie.

        That $7.5B and 1000 jobs isn't coming from Amazon, it is what Amazon estimates would be spent/created by users of the data centre. Amazon's investment is in the range of $250-350M in construction costs (inflate that figure as it is a few years old), and then the running costs. Direct employment by Amazon is in the range of 20 people.

        Also someone needs to give an answer on what has happened to the near-abandoned datacentre that Amazon already had under construction in west Auckland.

        This is a silly sugar-rush announcement that Labour had already done 3 years ago.

        This isn't going to age well in the next 48 hours.

      • Incognito 3.2.2

        I think we need lots more specific detail on this Amazon proposal.

        Good luck with that. So far there’s been spin and obfuscation.

        https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/09/02/amazon-aborts-construction-of-west-auckland-data-centre/ [behind priority-access wall for now]

        Luxon is so desperate to get anything on the score-board that even a seagull shit is considered a ‘win’.

      • PsyclingLeft.Always 3.2.4

        Newsroom has some detail on the Amazon assholes..IMO these plundering, anti union, fuckwits are not anything NZ needs….

        Amazon gives up building its own Auckland data centre, as power prices soar

        Tech giant’s NZ boss makes one of the clumsiest and most embarrassing attempts in a long time to spin good news out of a fiasco

        this week on Tuesday morning, with great fanfare, Amazon again announced the launch of “the country’s largest, publicly announced, global technology investment”.

        Earlier…

        We have now learned that six months ago, after a year of drilling and digging, the construction of the west Auckland data centre finally ground to a halt. The company is rumoured to have blown $40 million; it’s not known if that is on top of the $33m spent buying the land.

        And as they are wont…

        The wetland has not been reinstated.

        The 1000 jobs?

        Don Christie is sceptical. He reckons there will be a few dozen jobs at most.

        That’s because Christie says Amazon has simply installed its technology at data centres built by other firms – including Infratil-owned hyperscaler CDC. “How hard do you think it is to drop a few racks in a data centre and run what Amazon used to call an ‘outpost product’?” he asks. “They can do that for a few hundred thousand dollars.”

        In his view, the failure to build separate secure availability zones jeopardises the resilience of the Amazon cloud. “Their availability zone in New Zealand is less robust than it probably should be given the geological situation,” Christie says. “They’ve drained a lake, they’ve destroyed all that environment, and now they’re walking away.”

        https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/09/02/amazon-aborts-construction-of-west-auckland-data-centre/

    • lprent 3.4

      Thats 7.5million per job!!!

      People are cheaper than hardware. Most of that investment is in hardware, and the data centres infrastructure.

      Be nice to make it possible to move the azure webapps and databases I'm working on to a local datacentre. On the other hand aussie is a deeper potential market and they like their data to be stored locally.

      • Res Publica 3.4.1

        We had a brief look at what services were available in the new region yesterday and took about 5 minutes for us to decide to write a long and detailed email to our bosses saying there's no way we're going to shift from Sydney/Melbourne any time soon.

        No Security Centre, Athena, or backups. And no timeline for when they'll become available. Which makes it functionally useless for any big data or data lake workloads.

        For comparison, they stood up Melbourne something like 7 years ago and it still doesn't provide the full service catalog.

  2. Hunter Thompson II 4

    News item, 2 Sept 2025: PM says Amazon will invest $7.5 billion in NZ, creating “up to 1000 jobs.”

    1. I want to know what taxpayer-funded incentives were given for that to happen.
    2. Does anyone ever check to see if the job numbers said to spring from these sorts of projects ever eventuate?
    • feijoa 4.1

      I just happened to watch a documentary on Al Jazeera last night about data centres in Mexico. The amount of power they need is mind boggling. In addition the amount of water for cooling meant the local farmers in the area in Mexico didn't have enough water to grow food.

      Madness. These oligarchs are pillaging the world.

  3. PsyclingLeft.Always 5

    If there was so much conflict of interest…and hence extensive measures in place, I have a one word question : Why?

    Extensive measures in place to manage KiwiRail director's conflict of interests

    KiwiRail's chair questioned the extensive conflicts of a newly-appointed board member, suggesting they would test his loyalty, documents obtained by RNZ show.

    Scott O'Donnell's appointment went ahead, but with a slew of measures in place to manage any conflicts between his new role and the 10 companies he is involved in – many of them in transport.

    O'Donnell is also one of the four directors of Dynes Transport Tapanui, which donated $20,000 to NZ First in July 2024.

    Ol' Wily Winnie says NO…(there is some interesting content in the article.)

    Minister for Rail and NZ First party leader Winston Peters said the donation played no part in O'Donnell's appointment.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/571757/extensive-measures-in-place-to-manage-kiwirail-director-s-conflict-of-interests

    Earlier from Ol' Wily hisself….(no mention then of the conflicted Scott?)

    KiwiRail Chair and Deputy appointed

    https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/kiwirail-chair-and-deputy-appointed

    I had earlier raised this confliction….

    https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-09-07-25/#comment-2038244

    • Bearded Git 5.1

      Assuming Dynes Transport is a trucking operation, he should resign today.

    • Psycho Milt 5.2

      Typical NZ top-level recruitment:

      "Whoa, this mofo would have a shitload of conflicts of interest in this role!"

      "Hire him anyway, he can 'manage' the conflicts of interest."

      Beats the hell out of me how surveys consistently rank us among the least corrupt countries. If that's true, what the hell are the other countries like?

  4. Bearded Git 6

    Liverpool have just bought a player, Isak, for the equivalent of NZ$290 million.

    They could have bought 58 houses in NZ for that.

    • Belladonna 6.1

      Around 318 houses – looking at the average price. OFC, if you pitch below the average, then a bit more.

      https://www.qv.co.nz/price-index/

      But, the ridiculous fees clubs give to elite sportspeople internationally, have little relevance to life in NZ.

      • Nic the NZer 6.1.1

        While elite football players get paid plenty, transfer fees are paid between the clubs involved. If the club makes profitable trades its the club owners who benefit.

        • Obtrectator 6.1.1.1

          In Britain the player used to collect 10% of the fee, provided he hadn't requested the transfer. Dunno if that's still the case.

        • Belladonna 6.1.1.2

          Happy to modify my comment – in line with your info.

          "The ridiculous fees that international sports clubs pay for players internationally, have little relevance to life in NZ"

  5. joe90 7

    Riedl is a senior at a conservative think outfit, former chief economist for a GOP senator and the 2016 Rubio presidential campaign's director of budget and spending policy.

    https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:5o6k7jvowuyaquloafzn3cfw/post/3lxrgz55ll22g?

  6. SPC 8

    David Seymour Seymour speaking for ACT and Shane Jones speaking with love for all things carbon and mining at the expense of the sea, conservation estate and environment protection want out of the Paris Accord.

    The Right Honourable Christopher Luxon, having thrown the gumboot as far as he can to please farmers, does not see the point of it.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/571796/act-wants-out-of-paris-agreement-national-says-no

  7. SPC 9

    Responsible spending rules being set by Lotto.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/lotto-revolution-new-spend-limit-some-games-gone-as-lotto-bosses-make-major-tech-changes/QHZ6JAMCKZDZHERBCWFA3YUTXY/

    The TAB now has a betting monopoly.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/racing/nz-bans-offshore-betting-tab-gains-monopoly-with-new-law/YL2MJEWX25EK5IY5XV7KOJH62Y/

    In practice, this means that it is not illegal for someone in New Zealand to participate in gambling over the Internet if that website is based overseas

    https://www.dia.govt.nz/gambling

    The bill was introduced by Internal Affairs Minister Brooke van Velden and would introduce 15 licences for online casinos, which would require companies to provide a harm prevention strategy and data showing past compliance.

    Online casinos would need an age verification system to ban under-18s, contribute 1.24 percent of profits to a levy, and abide by advertising restrictions.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/566995/online-casino-bill-greens-vote-with-coalition-govt-to-pass-first-reading

  8. Bearded Git 10

    According to Gerard Otto latest Roy Morgan:

    Lab 34.0 Gre 13.5 TPM 2.5=50.0

    Nat 29.0 ACT 10.5 NZF 7.0=46.5

    If this is genuine 29% means Luxon is a gonner.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10164119750212033&set=a.65048947032