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Open Mike 23/07/2026

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34 comments on “Open Mike 23/07/2026 ”

  1. bwaghorn 1

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/361009729/christopher-luxon-vows-stuart-nash-will-not-serve-his-cabinet-after-sexist-comments

    What I would say to you is that now that Nash has resigned I'm going to go

    Around acting tough. But I'll still refuse to sack the racist, disgusting shane jones

  2. Thinker 2

    I thought it presumptuous of Luxon to assume he will have a Cabinet to keep Nash out of.

    1. NZ First could conceivably poll higher than National at current trends, leaving Luxon begging to be in Winston's Cabinet.

    2. Even if National become the highest polling party, how long will the ticking time bomb in Luxon's pocket go on for?

    3. Sorry, Luxon, but you do have to face the possibility of being put out with the rubbish on election day. Having seen your polling, I'm surprised Andrew Bayly hasn't made the L sign on his forehead at you! ☣️

  3. gsays 3

    @ wags @ 1

    Spot on. When I heard Mr Thumb's posturing this is what I thought of.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/Kn-mSHceYYQ?si=2vCAxdq-4kySVXKC

  4. Dennis Frank 4

    The issue of hypocrisy seems to be hanging in the air. Like a gathering cloud, hovering over the PM: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/politics/772673/significant-distraction-stuart-nash-resigns-as-nz-first-candidate-after-sexist-comments

    "He's right that Stuart Nash's recent outburst was unacceptable, but so was Shane Jones' insinuations about him performing oral sex on a visiting foreign leader, Winston Peters making masturbation jibes live on TV and Shane Jones outright racism towards Indians, yet the Prime Minister did absolutely nothing about any of that."

    Hipkins cleverly bringing fellatio into the mix raises the moral tone of the entire situation a notch. Marketing gurus have long used sex in advertising because it works, so the hipster is on solid ground. Lux has a problem with non-Nat numpties:

    Luxon had called the comments "sexist", and said Nash was channelling the "manosphere".Asked if he'd have Nash around the Cabinet table, he only encouraged people to party vote National to avoid "numpties" from other parties.

    With so many numpties in his own party, the obvious solution of declaring parliament a numpty-free zone won't work well, so he's using the lame option instead. No go…

  5. Mercurio 5

    Chris Finlayson engages.

    "On his Cross Party Lines podcast, former attorney-general Chris Finlayson revealed Nash had sent him a late night text …"

    Now Nash is ash.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/361009588/nz-firsts-stuart-nash-makes-sexist-claim-mp-was-lazy-taking-baby-leave

    • tWig 5.1

      I agree, even though Nash's calling the woman MP lazy was rude, and also incorrect. He and his party could well have apologised with grovelling, quoting a misunderstanding of her arrangements. She took a short, unpaid maternity leave and organised to be excused from Parliament, but not from electorate work, for a few more months. I imagine Parliament has extended such arrangements for MPs many times for health reasons.

      This appears to be a thin excuse to ditch someone not fitting into the party vibe and/or threatening the party head. I also don’t think his comments were sexist. The sexism label is the thin excuse.

  6. Mercurio 6

    Who is Luxon referring to here?

    Shane Jones?

    Winston Peters?

    David Seymour???

    "“After several instances of poor behaviour, some politicians will claim he has changed. his lack of contrition …"

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/361009729/christopher-luxon-vows-stuart-nash-will-not-serve-his-cabinet-after-sexist-comments

  7. Hunter Thompson II 7

    Back in Feb 2026 the Environmental Defence Society published a note on how the govermement was quietly changing the law to allow NZ's freshwater resources to be plundered by the rural sector: https://eds.org.nz/resources/documents/reports/eds-investigates-freshwater-ambushed/

    EDS comments: "The first report in the series, Freshwater ambushed, focuses on amendments to sections 70 and 107 of the Resource Management Act which weakened long-standing safeguards for aquatic life. It traces how High Court decisions that strengthened freshwater protections were quickly undone through legislative changes, including last-minute amendments made with limited evidence and analysis."

    Don't just read it; take action!

  8. Dennis Frank 8

    Academic leadership is usually conspicuous by its absence so credit is due to Massey:

    organisers of the recent Reality of Everything Symposium are urging New Zealanders to engage with the defining challenge of our time: the planetary polycrisis. They say that without a much broader public and political understanding of the interconnected crises shaping our present and future, meaningful action will fall short of what is urgently needed.

    Organisers of the sold-out symposium have now made the recordings of expert briefings, along with transcripts and key points, freely available online… https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO2607/S00144/the-reality-of-everything-expert-briefings-aim-to-reshape-new-zealands-election-conversation-on-the-future.htm

    Terrific to see academic experts steering sheeple shamelessly! yes Dogooding can also be free-range, rather than driven by an ivory tower. Community organisers can use those briefs to briefly instruct local communities. A glimmer of a masterplan could appear in the thought bubble above the heads of local folk. enlightenedOnly quibble that comes immediately to mind is due to their reality-based framing. Seeing reality in everything is a big thought, but thinking big is everso 1970s. Not that we ought to think small. Think of the goldilocks principle: think medial. It's the hermetic way.

  9. Dennis Frank 9

    Another Vietnam?

    Patrick Bury, a senior associate professor at the University of Bath and former NATO research analyst, agreed that Iran will likely be able to continue to exact a deadly toll on US assets and personnel for the foreseeable future, despite Washington’s vast military superiority.

    “The real issue American military power faces is that there is an asymmetry of cost imposition,” he told Al Jazeera.“It’s well documented that the Iranian stockpiles, particularly of drones and missiles, are much cheaper to produce and fire than the kit needed to intercept them at the moment.”

    “That’s why Iran is able to inflict damage in the strategic sense”, he added, “and why this problem isn’t going away at all”. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/7/22/iranian-missiles-show-deadly-precision-amid-us-iran-war-escalation

    Such reductionism! Reducing the war to a cost equation anchors everyone in supply & demand expectating in accord with neolib praxis. Yet the expert may have fingered the key point: asymmetry of cost leads to an effect differential, which could be more influential than all the posturing as short term extends into medium term warfare.

  10. Dennis Frank 10

    I googled euronoia, but folks still haven't got around to inventing it. This Greek bears a gift of gnosis which could help develop the stance:

    I have been a staunch advocate of a European fiscal union for 40 years, including common borrowing in the form of eurobonds. However, the common borrowing which is now practised in Brussels is anathema to any sensible advocate of a fiscal union. Its first faux pas is who borrows: not some common Treasury, but the European Commission, an outfit that has no power to tax or even to roll over previous debts, relying for its funds on fiscally stressed member-states that lack a central bank willing and able to support them. Is it any wonder that financiers do not take the bonds Europe uses to procure its common debt seriously, referring to them as sub-sovereign and charging the EU suitably inflated interest rates in the process? Then there is the question of what the EU does with the jointly borrowed money. A quick glance at how the EU divvied up the €750 billion recovery fund after the pandemic is enough to send shivers down anyone’s spine: our leaders gathered in a room and haggled for a few hours over how to distribute the spoils, which were then handed out to the oligarchs back home. https://unherd.com/2026/07/dont-fall-for-project-smear-mr-burnham/

    Putting domestic oligarchy aside (who happily patronise any leftist or rightist politician willing to play the right game), this insider view shows how eurocrats operate. They serve the class of owners of capitalist enterprises.

    Britain’s stagnation will not be reversed by rejoining a hopelessly stagnant, indeed a de-industrialising, Europe. Nor will the UK’s low productivity, low-wage, diminishing prosperity equilibrium be transcended by Andy Burnham’s justified lamentations about how neoliberalism vandalised British industry under Thatcher and Blair. The time for thinking about what a New Deal for the UK entails, undistracted by the “Europe question”, is now.

    Cool, the time is now, the topic is framed; ready, set, go! A New Deal is a vastly different entity to a Big Deal, so growth ideology has no place here. Newness is all about doing something completely different. That turned Monty Python into a bunch of comedic legends, so it ought to work as well for other lateral thinkers…

  11. gsays 11

    Without being able to read the whole article you can tell what it says.

    'Bastion of neo liberal orthodoxy, casts neo liberal eye over plan to inhibit further wealth transfer to the wealthy. Concludes it must not can't work.

    What I would give for MSM (especially RNZ) to get a view from a non bank/neo liberal economist. Craig Rennie for example.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/treasury-advice-casts-doubt-on-greens-wealth-tax-modelling/premium/JD7UP6JXW5GONE5ZJGLDST2HAI/

    • Incognito 11.1

      Without being able to read the whole article you can tell what it says.

      Nope, you’re completely wrong and the headline (plus first couple of sentences in front of the pay-wall) is misleading, and deliberately so, I reckon.

      FYI, Treasury has not reviewed the Greens’ wealth tax modelling [for the NZ Herald] as the headline suggests.

      Unless we can read the whole NZH piece, we cannot and must not jump to conclusions, IMO.

  12. Stephen D 12

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/22/saudi-arabia-would-enrich-uranium-under-reported-deal-with-us?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    ”Donald Trump signed a nuclear agreement with Saudi Arabia on Wednesday that could enable the kingdom to enrich its own uranium for nuclear reactions.

    The US energy secretary, Chris Wright, and his Saudi counterpart, Prince Abdulaziz bin Salman, signed “a peaceful nuclear cooperation agreement” and “an accompanying bilateral safeguards agreement,” according to a statement from the US Department of Energy.”

    Are they running out of oil?
    Or, precursors to developing a nuclear bomb with which to threaten Iran?

    • Dennis Frank 12.1

      Slowly, and your precursor theory is sensible insofar as establishing collective enterprise means hiring experts, cohering them into an operating team, then directing them to a specific task. I like that they frame their collaboration as peaceful.

      That puts warfare on hold somewhat, yet allows design for a smart pivot into it from whatever future, driven by contingency at the time. The bilateral safeguards thing seems to be necessary constraint, where the devil lurks within the detail. He who controls lingo writes the rules. The Sunni side of Islam originated in a local/regional/tribal power nexus whereas the Shia originated in blood-tie elitism derived from family ties of the prophet. So the former are closer to capitalist ethos.

  13. Dennis Frank 13

    Media circus alert: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/politics/776520/shoot-shag-or-marry-game-was-act-candidate-paul-henry-being-authentic-seymour-says

    In an interview on Radio Hauraki on Thursday morning, Henry was asked which of three party leaders he would "shoot, shag or marry" between National's Christopher Luxon, Labour's Chris Hipkins, and New Zealand First's Winston Peters. "You've got to shoot Hipkins, haven't you?" Henry responded. "You've got to shoot Hipkins. You've given me three choices, to be fair."He went on to say the next choice was tricky. "It's got to be Winston. I'm shagging Winston." It prompted quick condemnation from Labour, with Hipkins comparing Henry's conduct to a "circus audition"…

    Australia's prime minister Anthony Albanese similarly faced criticism earlier this month after taking part in a variant of the game on a podcast – "shag, marry, date". He later apologised for having said he would shag singer Kylie Minogue.

    I'm inclined to encourage these people to take comfort in our lack of a cultural commissar while it lasts. Otoh, enterprising lawyers trying to write hate speech law may enjoy having a new boundary to patrol. Aesthetes must now ponder the relative merits of the Aussie triad shag/marry/date and the Kiwi triad shoot/shag/marry.

  14. Incognito 14

    As expected, Penny Simmonds has done major damage to polytechs and NZ’s public vocational education. Affected students are the future workforce that’s vital for our economy and productivity.

    The Coalition was in a hurry to tear down things, leaving a wasteland of shameful shambles.

    https://newsroom.co.nz/2026/07/22/officials-warn-polytechnics-at-risk-as-govt-pushes-ahead-with-reforms/

    • greywarshark 14.1

      The Natiban are working through their big thinks on what to destroy next of Kiwiland that our fore-fathers and mothers had made and found to be good. The Simpsons parody us as we rush about studied in the wild by superior satellites above, and other devilish devices below.

      The Thinker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxIXbGJFKec

  15. alwyn 15

    I think you are being a bit to hard on Labour. They aren't responsible for everything that goes wrong.

    I have it on good authority that the NZ Labour Party weren't responsible for the massacre at Katyn Forest where tens of thousands of Polish Officers were murdered in 1940. That one was Stalin's work.

    [TheStandard: A moderator moved this comment to Open Mike as being off topic or irrelevant in the post it was made in. Be more careful in future.]

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