Daily review 24/01/2022

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    1. 1.1

      Not at all surprising. Good to read from horse's mouth. From the reddit thread:

      Feels like we're being thrown under the bus just to appease business owners, 'the economy', and the people who earn 3 times as much as us and who still want to be able to go out for brunch with their friends.

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    • Yes always amazing me how much some people earn for doing jobs that make very little contribution, while essential workers are so badly paid.
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    Luxon on Morning Report – "I've run an airline . . ." As if that is the same as running a country! Though he probably developed his Key 'I can't recall' line while there, services to Saudi Arabia anyone?

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/audio/player?audio_id=2018827784

    But he reminds me . . . a bit like Aaron Gilmore: "Do you know who I am?"

    Which probably explains why he took a limousine for the 200 m trip to parliament on his first day as LOTO.

    A real, chip of the old keyblock, born to rule Tory.

      1. 6.1.1

        You're right. What are people thinking?!? Everyone should go home because there's a smattering of "off-message" messaging and an obvious lack of political purity … 🙂

        Oh, hang on. No successful organising ever worked from that kind of basis.

            1. 6.1.1.1.1.2

              So…people who likening their position to that which was experienced by Jews and others are in league with people who were not there and who are clearly anti-Semitic? How's that work?

              And others used "OMG! words" and hyperbole.

              Any pictures of the hippies in that there twitter account of yours? No?

          1. 6.1.1.1.2

            How many of them will catch it that day and end up gravely ill or worse.

            The lady with the "shoot" sign is over the top. Hopefully the potential shooters take in to account the presence of "kidnap" in the instruction. Haven't heard of any kidnap vaccinations taking place, but it's highly likely these people have a different interpretation of what constitutes a kidnapping anyway.
            edit: There sure is a disturbing sick irony claiming to be persecuted like a Jew while attacking Jews with hate messages.Bonkers of the sick variety.

              1. 6.1.1.1.2.2.1

                Domestic terrorist is the term isn't it?

                Shame about the young Nazi guitarist, gave his life for a cause that has its foundations rooted in stupidity.

        1. 6.1.1.2

          Organisers cannot control individuals who join a protest. Fair enough.

          But organisers certainly have a say in who speaks at a protest, and their message. And they certainly have a say in how they respond to said speakers. And the rest of us can draw conclusions about their approval.

          At what point do you say "I won't be an apologist, I want nothing to do with these people"? Sadly, your answer seems to be "never". Even when they speak openly of "Nuremberg trials" and other nonsense, you still run defence for them.

          1. 6.1.1.2.1

            Even when they speak openly of "Nuremberg trials" and other nonsense, you still run defence for them.

            It goes like this. As you know, I'm opposed to the imposition of mandates – I view them as stupid and harmful.

            That opposition isn't contingent on what others opposed to the mandates think. The person next to me can be a Flat Earther for all I care. I don't have to agree with them, and I won't don't defend their views if they clash with my own. In that regard, it's much like unionism and the clatter of prejudice, such as racism, that comes with union actions.

            ie, – the solidarity centres on a point or principle that many perspectives gravitate towards. All Joe's selected tweets do is serve the politics of distrust and division required by protagonists on the other side of class war.

            How many people have been swayed by, and fed into the narrative that any person opposed to mandates is some kind of white supremacist, conspiracy nut, deplorable or Brian Tamaki type – such that they have never gone along to any meeting or event and checked things out for themselves?

            I'm aware of many self identifying "leftists" who fall into that camp – some who have taken a further step and become willful force multipliers of state and corporate propaganda.

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    In Turkey, citing a proverb in the mass media is hate speech:

    A Turkish court has detained well-known journalist Sedef Kabas for allegedly insulting the country's president.

    "There is a very famous proverb that says that a crowned head becomes wiser. But we see it is not true," she said on the Tele1 channel. "A bull does not become king just by entering the palace, but the palace becomes a barn." She also later posted the quote on Twitter.

    Mr Erdogan's Chief Spokesman Fahrettin Altun described her comments as "irresponsible". "A so-called journalist is blatantly insulting our president on a television channel that has no goal other than spreading hatred," he wrote on Twitter. In her court statement, Ms Kabas denied intending to insult the president.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60099931

    Goes to show that literary criticism impacts at the top of politics. I suspect the prosecution will argue that the bull is meant to be the president by analogy. Not sure if analogical reasoning normally carries weight in law or how much political independence a Turkish court may have (or not).

    Editor of the Tele1 channel Merdan Yanardag criticised Ms Kabas' arrest. "Her detention overnight at 2am because of a proverb is unacceptable," he said. "This stance is an attempt to intimidate journalists, the media and society".

    According to the story, Reuters news agency reports that in 2020 more than 31,000 charges of insulting the president were filed. Doesn't say if they were all processed and judged by Turkish courts but indicates the scale of intense competition amongst the Turks. I wonder if there's a reality tv show where the insults get rated by an audience.

    The charge carries a prison sentence of between one and four years.

    Obviously not an effective deterrent! Reforms must have become transformational since Midnight Express trashed the international reputation of Turkish prisons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Express_(film)

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