Looks like the Taxpayers Union has now gone offline so that we have no idea where its funding came from.
Because it claimed, without justification, that it was a democratic organisation with a commitment to the public good, and so it registered as an incorporated society.
One of the obligations of an incorporated society is publicise accounts each year. Here are the TPU accounts from last year.
It had income of $2.3 million but expenses of $2.5 million. I thought it would be building up a warchest for the campaign like it did last time when it had nearly a million dollars in the bank.
This time it looks like TPU has a lot more employees. And a lot less money in the bank.
But thanks to it deregistering we will no longer have any ability to understand how it is funded. And we will not know how much of a warchest it has, at least some of which may be funded from overseas.
Which is a concern.
After all it gets lots of media attention and it funds the Curia Poll which I always had concerns about.
The latest poll looks dubious. I mean Labour and TOP both being hit? Sure one might be hit but both? Are Labour voters really going to switch to Act?
Over in the UK Nigel Farage is being pummeled because Reform anonymously fed polls paid for by donations by crypto bros to the media and these were used to attack Labour.
Over in Aotearoa we have polls quite possibly funded by Atlas entities and circulated by TPU being used to attack the Labour Party.
Please explain to me why we should not be concerned for our democracy.
Thank you Micky. Perhaps some realise the web of deceit being woven.
View All Details – looks like they registered it as a company instead, just to continue the lack of transparency.
We do get to look at the Constitution though…
I see John Boscawen is one of the TU company directors. He was on Radio NZ's The Whip political discussion a couple of weeks ago spouting massively pro-ACT opinions. No sense of balance.
And of course Jordan Williams is another director, and Ruth Richardson.
Gawd ‘elp us. Who would trust a TU/Curia poll with that list.
BG the whole vipers nest are ACT to their poisonous core.
If not known? It should be…..TPU = ACT.
As for the TPU Curia poll ? Divide, and Rule…since Ages.
We on the Left should not be dividing. Labour Green is NZ's only chance.
+1000000 Psych.
Thanks
So only shareholders get to see accounts and that includes Farrar, Williams and Ruth Richardson …
So much for being a grassroots activist group.
The technical term is astroturfing.
Previously the some "associated" organisations such as the Campaign Company that were used to run campaigns on behalf of ACT and National, and apparently either TPU or the NZ Initiative have been training grounds for Ministerial advisers in all three government parties – including for the Finance Minister – apparently he did not learn how to totally hide submissions from "friends / donors" that turned up word for word in legislation. Interesting that Farrar is back in a Director position – perhaps independence is not as necessary now that Curia is no longer a member of an industry organisation concerned with market research standards it is taking less of his time. The TPU do seem to have more staff than a year or so ago – see: https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/our_team.
Political donations and campaign financing are in urgent need of reform. Possible foundational points in such a reform – first thoughts anyway:
If OPP do make it into Parliament and Hipkins is in a position to talk to them, this is the one area where they may have some common ground.
I agree with all yr proposals. OP wants to shake up lobbying too.
Unfortunately I don't have faith in Hipkins doing much especially if it is this Hipkins.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/politics/486382/prime-minister-s-chief-of-staff-andrew-kirton-led-lobbying-firm-that-fought-against-reforms-now-binned-by-chris-hipkins
Remember that capping donations will also affect Union donations to Labour.
Yes it will – but that has to be accepted to get any legislative control over the whole donation and campaign financing sh*tshow. The principle here is the core democratic one of "equal influence over outcomes".
Also GP MPs tithing a percentage of their salary.
Surely a Union donation divided by the amount of members wouldn't meet any reasonable threshold.
Donations (as suggested above) have to be given under the name of an individual who is on the electoral roll. Many union members may not be happy for a public donation to be made in their name. People belong to unions for a whole lot of reasons, and their personal politics may not be the same as one the Union supports.
How would any if this (apart from the inability to release polls) affect what the TPU does?
And, by extension, donors giving funding to lobby groups as a proxy for political parties
Agreed, that's the rub. I heard on Nat radio (I think it was the bogey man Farrar) the salient point that the harder you make it for people to donate to parties the more likely we are to end up like America with the rise of Super PACs that are very influential and there's no idea where the moeny comes from. I'm a union member and thankfully my union doesn't donate to any party.. they do however donate to CTU which pisses me off occasionaly.
That scaremongering by a super astroturfer is deeply ironic.
Limiting their ability to release political polls is an improvement. You rightly raise the wider question of the TPU (or any big donor) poisoning the well of public discourse in some other way. None of what I suggested is done with an assumption that all the ingenuity and malign intent of big money can be easily stopped. We can keep mopping up the more egregious examples of that with additional regulation, but there is no doubt a point of diminishing returns and unworkable regulatory complexity. However, that doesn't imply that we should do nothing.
I think we can safely assume who their donors are and who is pulling their strings.
So lets not be shy about telling the world about who the TPU really is. If they don't like that they can front up with their accounts.
By their Acts you shall know them.
Totally, call for the sunlight. Remind NZ they're being played by these well funded astroturfers.
For this election the spending limit for registered third parties during the regulated period (7 August to 6 November) is $424,000, gst inclusive. Spend more than $100,000 and the registered party needs to report its expenses after the election.
Too late by then and it is only advertising expense and only during the regulated period.
Unless we have the courage to say that democracy actually means the equal influence of every citizen over electoral outcomes, we may as well go and die in a hole of our own making. Implement that principle in whatever damn way it works best.
Is this TPU Curia still kicked out of the regulators?
I remember Farrar kicking up a stink, but why were they removed?
Are they now moral and following whatever rules they were previously breaking?
See https://researchassociation.org.nz/Update
I have not tried to find out what determination the Research Association made in the case that prompted the resignation by Farrar.
From Gemini
"Curia Market Research was not technically expelled; its principal, David Farrar, voluntarily resigned from the Research Association of New Zealand (RANZ) in August 2024 to preempt potential disciplinary action.
Gosh though, who would suspect dark money could be used to commission dodgy polls to help far right, Atlas aligned parties?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c86xj5z7x61o
Correct