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Open Mike 29/07/25

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  1. Todays Posts 1

    Today's Posts (updated through the day):

    Fisher and Paykel

  2. lprent 2

    Had an overnight outage due to the rss-aggregator plugin trying to upgrade itself from v4 to v5 without asking for permission.

    I have disabled it temporarily. Looks like it is unusable. Another task…

    • Dennis Frank 2.1

      Any complex system is liable to generate chaos from within, as well as to be susceptible to a chaos factor entering from without, since it is the way of the world.

      The astrologer's take on this is via correlations with Mercury retrograde – a phase of temporal context lasting about 3.5 weeks, of which we are currently in the midst.

      Technoglitches are likely during this phase of time, plus communication breakdowns of more general sorts. One would judge Trump's apparent victory yesterday accordingly, and expect subsequent revision when Mercury goes direct. Devil in details…

    • alwyn 2.2

      When we look at the way AI is going I guess it is no wonder that computer software now considers itself to be of more significance than are carbon based puny little human beings and sees no reason to ask permission to do whatever it wants.

      You are very brave disabling it. Look what happened when the human beings on the spacecraft tried to shut down the HAL 9000 in 2001, A Space Odyssey. Beware!

  3. Hunter Thompson II 3

    The High Court has ruled Oranga Tamariki must pay $108,000 in legal costs to the couple entrusted with foster care of a Maori child: https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360771887/judge-slams-oranga-tamarikis-egregious-behaviour-awards-costs-moana-foster-parents

    The judge held OT's efforts to remove the child (involving several court hearings) amounted to egregious behaviour.

    Let other over-zealous bureaucrats take note.

    • alwyn 3.1

      It doesn't affect the people in the Department. As always it is the taxpayer who pays. The public student isn't bothered at all.

      I wonder how the poor little kid in the middle of this brawl is getting on these days?

    • Anne 3.2

      That case distressed me. The child was safe and well cared for. What is more the foster parents were diligent in ensuring the child would receive her cultural needs. Then in strode the Oranga Tamariki bullies. I expect a wet bus ticked was all they got – if that.

    • Terry 3.3

      Not so much overzealous bureaucrats, rather incompetent bureaucrats combined with stupidity and the willingness to do harm to others

  4. Stephen D 4

    Looks like Richard Harmon has been played like a fiddle by Federated Farmers.

    From The Bulletin.

    https://thespinoff.activehosted.com/index.php?action=social&chash=2bb232c0b13c774965ef8558f0fbd615.536&nosocial=1

    Integrity Institute’s media funding raises questions over political agenda

    The Integrity Institute, set up to promote transparency and accountability in politics, is under scrutiny for allegedly using its $3 million endowment to advance politically targeted journalism, reports Richard Harman in Politik (paywalled). The organisation is funding a year-long investigative series in Newsroom, currently focused on Federated Farmers’ influence on freshwater policy. But the prescriptive nature of the institute’s trust deed – which encourages media partnerships and even outlines potential “sting” operations against lobbyists – is "raising questions about its own integrity", writes Harman."

    The Newsroom Piece was a great piece of journalism. Fed Farm just didn't appreciate being dragged into the daylight.

    https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/07/25/who-benefits-the-power-of-the-farm-lobby-part-two/

    • lprent 4.1

      I read the Politik post last night. It was reasonably balanced, given Richard Harmons usual leanings.

      Federated Farmers President, Wayne Langford, told POLITIK yesterday: “Not only do we make all of our submissions publicly available on our website – we also proactively publish the letters we send.

      “We publicly released our policy platform for the 2023 election and sent it to all major political parties, asking them to adopt some of our policy positions as their own.

      “This included follow-up meetings with all political parties currently in Government to discuss those policy positions – National, ACT, New Zealand First, Labour, Green, and Te Pāti Māori.”

      Langford said Federated Farmers had never heard of the ‘Integrity Institute’ until last week, when they were clearly identified as the funders of a story by David Williams on Newsroom.

      “We’ve since seen the organisation’s highly prescriptive trust deed and it’s safe to say we have some significant concerns – ironically, about what seems to be a lack of integrity,” he said.

      “I think Newsroom, and in particular David Williams, have some serious questions to answer about whether they’re engaging in pay-for-play journalism and dirty politics.

      “The fact that Newsroom have taken money from the Integrity Institute seriously calls into question their editorial independence and journalistic integrity.”

      Newsroom co-editor, Tim Murphy, rejects those charges.

      “The grant we received from the Integrity Institute came with no strings attached,” he said.

      “We are free to investigate any lobby group we choose.

      “The fact that we choose to do the influence of farming lobbies on freshwater regulations is purely a coincidence.

      “Our reporter, David Williams, was already looking at this issue before our initial discussions with the Integrity Institute.

      “The Institute has no editorial say in what we do and doesn’t want any.

      “The first time they see what we have written is when it is published.

      “We have a written agreement between us that ensures complete independence.

      “The first piece could equally have been on the union, educational, transport or environmental lobbies Newsroom – not Integrity Institute – have on our list, but Dave was well advanced on these ag-water matters.”

      The Integrity Institute’s Director, Bryce Edwards also rejects Federated Farmers charges.

      “The Trust Deed for The Integrity Institute has been established by the trustees, rather than myself,” he told POLITIK.

      “But for any organisation that wants to locate political influence – especially outsized influence on government decisions – then Federated Farmers is clearly one of the primary forces that needs scrutiny.

      “It has existed for nearly a century, but has arguably become more politically powerful in recent years, but without a lot of media or academic study or challenge.

      “So, we’re wanting to address that imbalance.”

      He does go on at length about Bryce Edwards new vehicle (Integrity Institute) choice of targets, but also put this in

      Edwards defends the focus on Transparency International.

      “The local chapter of Transparency International is also in need of more scrutiny,” he said.

      “Both the trustees and myself have previously been involved in or very supportive of Transparency International NZ (TINZ).

      “Personally I served on its board for about seven years.

      “Our experience of TINZ is that it has become a very conservative Establishment organisation that is too aligned with vested interests.

      “We believe that TINZ has become more of an obstacle for the integrity agenda than a solution.

      “Partly, this is because TINZ has been compromised by its funding and its networks, which are largely government agencies.

      “TINZ appears to be conflicted by the involvement of partisan figures and businesspeople – it’s chaired by a former National Party Cabinet Minister.

      “So, it’s because TINZ has become so much of an insider and Establishment force, that we believe that The Integrity Institute is now necessary.”

      Meantime, Newsroom says its deal with the Integrity Institute commits it to “a year-long project tracking and disclosing lobbying and influence”, which the Institute will fund.

      Given that the Institute’s Trust Deed also lists the Maxim Institute and Taxpayers’ Union as targets, it must be assumed these will be on Newsroom’s investigative list.

      There are no hard and fast rules in New Zealand about what funding media can or cannot accept.

      I'd (unusually) agree with Edwards on this. TINZ looks more like one of the usually right wing neo-liberal front organisations than anything else from what I have read from them. To me, the are less interested in transparency than they are in confining government to a very specific course of action that favours their sponsors.

      The organisations that the Integrity Institute are targeting about lobbying are (according to their deed)

      The Trust Deed also lists the research and public education priorities for the Institute.

      Only four organisations are singled out for study: Transparency International, the Taxpayers Union, the Maxim Institute and Federated Farmers.

      Newsroom’s two stories (so far) centre on Federated Farmers’ role in rolling back Labour’s freshwater regulations.

      All of which do seem to have specific agendas that are more influenced by the interests of their funders, are all heavily engaged in lobbying, and are all well within the target of any organisation that is looking at influence via lobbying. I can see why those organisations would be worried, defensive, and interested in smearing the II.

  5. Anne 5

    That case distressed me. The child was safe and well cared for. What is more the foster parents were diligent in ensuring she would receive her cultural needs. Then in strode the Oranga Tamariki bullies. I expect a wet bus ticked was all they got – if that.

  6. Dennis Frank 6

    Greens reach accord with hard right: https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/29-07-2025/windbag-why-the-taxpayers-union-endorsed-this-green-party-policy

    Wellington is the remnant of a failed startup. The New Zealand Company, which established the city, was a for-profit enterprise with a clear business model: sell land to wealthy people, and use the proceeds to bring working-class people to New Zealand for free. In theory, the mix of capital and labour would work in perfect harmony: founding businesses, working the land, and creating a functioning economy that would improve everyone’s property values. So what went wrong?

    Using neocolonial economic theory as basis for one's economic policy in the 21st century may seem audacious but it's genuinely Green: mixing the past with the present is what evolution does, and any contemporary reframe serves to shift us into the future.

    Land value taxes are the big current thing in the Yimby movement. Henry George is Sabrina Carpenter for online urbanists.

    Young dudester Joel McManus points to the trendiness factor in contagion. HG may be a century in his grave but his influence persists.

    Andrew Little, who is widely considered the frontrunner in the Wellington mayoral race, said he was open to the idea. “Land value-based rates is an idea worth considering,” Little told The Spinoff.

    I was impressed that he is so open-minded. Sure as hell beats going for the solution to the problem, so you can see why he did so well in Labour. Meanwhile, the long-hair option goes for solving the problem instead:

    Alex Baker, the Green-ish mayoral candidate who isn’t officially endorsed by the Greens, is also campaigning on a switch to land value rates… “The TPU-Green coalition is exactly where I see myself as a candidate,” Baker said.

    I envisage hordes of BlueGreen flags in Wellington streets, marching in all directions. Oh, wait. Nope, it evaporated…

    • greywarshark 6.1

      Interesting DF – a new approach to the shrouded behemoth.

    • weka 6.2

      Greens reach accord with hard right

      Snort. TPU agrees with some GP tax policy, for their own purposes.

  7. bwaghorn 7

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360773125/businesses-should-pass-paywave-costs-through-prices-nicola-willis-says?cx_testId=75&cx_testVariant=cx_1&cx_artPos=2#cxrecs_s

    Witless willis strikes again , she's telling shops to put 1% to 3% on all goods even if people don't use pay wave!!

    • gsays 7.1

      From the link;

      "The Finance Minister says when a ban on contactless card payment surcharges comes into effect, businesses should pass on the cost to customers as they would any other business cost, if they can't absorb the bill."

      If there was a "ban on contactless card payment surcharges" then there would be no cost to pass on. The banks would not be allowed to charge businesses.

      But our coward finance minister will not take on the banks in that way just like her ineffective chat with Fonterra and her turnstile tackling of the banks.

      Instead, us fogey Eftpos users are gonna bear the cost.

      Edit, Goodness! the comments are scathing, small business owners amongst them.

  8. PsyclingLeft.Always 8

    ‘Crippling’ bills likely in South Wairarapa with water reform

    On behalf of her council, Melissa Sadler-Futter has written to Local Government Minister Simon Watts urging him to support small and rural councils grappling with the growing scale and cost of water infrastructure reform.

    Modelling for South Wairarapa showed that ratepayers could face annual costs of almost $5000 per household under the proposed Wairarapa-Tararua joint entity.

    The letter was in support of a plea from Central Hawke's Bay Mayor Alex Walker whose ratepayers could face annual costs of $7000 per household under water reform by 2034.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/ldr/568299/crippling-bills-likely-in-south-wairarapa-with-water-reform

    I'm sure Groundswell, Peter Williams (Taxpayer Union mouthpiece) and other anti 3 Water/Maori militant agitators will stump up with some cash right? Riiight….

    But it was former broadcaster Peter Williams, speaking on behalf of the New Zealand Taxpayers Union, that wound up the crowd to begin with, saying that the reforms were undemocratic, would result in unnecessary bureaucracy, Maori ownership of water needed to be challenged, that 3 waters would lead to higher water costs and a loss of local control over water assets.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/128899977/fired-up-crowd-heckle-gores-mayor-at-groundswells-3-waters-meeting

  9. joe90 9

    Can't afford pay equity or teachers but lotsa money for the wealthy and sorted.

    //

    The Government has quietly agreed to raise the range of fees board members of Crown bodies could be paid, in some cases by 80%.

    Under the increase, revealed in a Cabinet document uploaded online without fanfare today, the top potential annual fee for chairs of governance boards would rise… to more than $160,000.

    That compares with the top amount of $90,000 in the previous framework issued in 2022.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/govt-to-increase-crown-body-board-members-fee-ranges-in-some-cases-by-80/Z2WV3ZCXBFEPRJVB4UMOUFQIZA/

    archivedotli

  10. SPC 10

    The government invested a lot of money in buying the favour of landlords.

    But it seems

    investing for CG in housing is not as good as the stock market (the 1986-1987 boom bust leading us astray).

    (and the CG in property is largely a result of population inflow and the 1986 tax cuts and the estate tax removal enabling the gated community aka inter-generational upper class bling culture).

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/home-property/360773085/new-zealanders-urged-break-property

    And rents are now in decline with values flat-lining as people move to Oz to escape the back to the 20th C form of neo-liberal conservatism.

  11. gsays 11

    I thought I would group source a desire for resources.

    My SO has become a delegate and has strike action coming up. They want to do a little education for the younger staff about strikes, picket lines, scabs etc.

    Last time round when union members naively crossed the line, the korero that their actions were undermining the sacrifices of the workforce were described as mean etc. So many of the staff are Gen Z/Millenial or recent migrants so strike action is seen as a chance to spend a day at home or with mates.

    Does anyone know of any essays, literature, YT videos etc that are a gentle explainer.

    Also any ideas how the rest of us could support the picket line.

    Chur.

    What I have come up with is some hot pumpkin soup to give out.

  12. aj 12

    https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/queenstown/member-high-profile-family-dodges-conviction-pak%E2%80%99nsave-shoplifting

    Subscriber only. Different rules it appears.

    Member of high-profile family dodges conviction for Pak’nSave shoplifting.

    A member of the high-profile Thackwray family has avoided a conviction after being caught stealing groceries from a Queenstown supermarket on 15 separate occasions.