Open mike 26/11/2011

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    Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. — H. L. Mencken

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    Been working all day on this democracy thing, totally takkered.
    Just wanted to say thanks to The Standard, its authors and supporting commentators.
    Big ups to you all. Keep it up, looks like there will be plenty to keep us busy over the next three years.

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    Espiner, Campbell et al, still locked into a two party FPP mentality.

    Espiner “National gets 48pct, the highest ever, and still cannot govern outright.”
    WTF: 52 pcnt did not vote National. National does not deserve to govern outright.
    They must look to introduce policy that 50% plus 1 of the House can support.

    Just a shame that we don’t have a constitution that requires 75% before a function can be changed and not the 50 plus 1.

    And what a disgrace that this poll was under 70 pcnt of eligible voters. We cannot blame National party voters for that.

    If, and its a big if, NZF and the Greens have cannablised the Labour vote, you could argue that the left has still got around 43 to 44 pcnt of the popular vote and with National on 48 that is only a 3 percent swing away. Add in Mana …

    The biggest laugh goes to the fuckwit voters in Epsom who voted for Parker. They just show how thick they are …

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      logie, if a party got 40% of the party vote and there was sufficient wasted vote, that could translate in enough seats to govern alone.

      So 48% and not being able to govern alone is actually slightly surprising – it’s basically in 50/50 territory as to whether they’d be able to govern alone on that figure, and as it turns out in this parliament configuration they can’t.

      Also the media reporting the turnout as 65% are just idiots. They haven’t counted advanced votes. When you throw them in, turnout is about 78%.

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        Looks like my number is incorrect: the advanced votes were counted in the normal figures, but the specials weren’t. They take it up to ~73%.

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