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Open Mike 24/07/25

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27 comments on “Open Mike 24/07/25 ”

  1. bwaghorn 2

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/home-property/360768320/rents-fall-first-time-2009

    We all wanted cheaper houses and rent! Who new that national would deliver by crashing the economy and driving people out of the country?

    • Kay 2.1

      Kind of moot when your rent has been going up and up and up every year. The extortionate amount paid never decreases. But to be fair, for the first time ever I didn't get a rent increase this year, so small mercies.

      Lower rents still mean nothing when losing one's private rental for whatever reason can realistically mean homelessness, and the stress of always living with that knowledge wears you down. At this point, more housing and stable housing first, then we sort out the rent.

      • weka 2.1.1

        and it's not like this rent drop applies to existing tenancies. Landlords will be dropping rents in some areas when they are advertising for new tenants. So to get the lower rent, one would have to move. Which might work, assuming moving costs don't outweigh the benefits, until the rents start going up again.

        • Kay 2.1.1.1

          Much like changing power companies for a temporary lower rate they bribe consumers with. It never lasts.

  2. Dennis Frank 3

    University lecturer does cultural analysis on the Middle East:

    The shaping of events today is very much in the hands of 1) established and would-be tyrants, whose sole purpose is short-term maintenance of unaccountable power, and 2) messianics, who have little cognisance of compromise with alternative interests and possibilities beyond perceptions of prophecy. Genuine progressives who are capable of power sharing and compromise are politically repressed at both ends of the Levant. Subsistence masses continue to suffer grievously or are being consumed with hatred as they powerlessly watch the live-streamed suffering of others.

    The Deep Green view of this cultural matrix combines top-down power with bottom-up power: the masses, encultured into hatred by tradition, combine their power to support whatever warlord prevails relative to their belief system (paradigm). So we get mass power from the bottom and ruler power from the top, operating in synergy.

    the objective is different for Israel’s self-declared messianics, who number around 12 percent of the electorate according to the last election results in 2022. Representing this constituency are the openly racist cabinet ministers, Itmar Ben Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich, who hold disproportionate control over the ruling coalition and Netanyahu’s political fate via Israel’s fully proportional electoral system. For them the reclamation of all of ‘greater Israel,’ and the genocidal removal of all Palestinians is a divine duty.

    https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/07/21/tyrants-and-messianics-work-to-undo-the-middle-east/

    El, the ancient deity of the Hebrews, lives on in the name Israel and in the heart of that 12% who operate the Israeli control system. Genocide by Hamas played into their hands wonderfully, so they ensured that the Israeli state reciprocated. The academic ends his analysis with a typical limp wrist, wishing for progressives to somehow become empowered. Human nature and tradition seem too powerful for that to happen.

    • Drowsy M. Kram 3.1

      The academic ends his analysis with a typical limp wrist…

      smiley NOoooo, not the dreaded typical academic limp wrist again – why even bother?

      Anne Salmond: New Zealanders deserve better [22 July 2025]
      Reflections on the politics of personal attack, a sign of hope and some ways forward

      How long have you been at this, Dennis? Imho, your comments seem increasingly like ‘preachy’ squawks from a distant horizon, but at least you’re having a go – carry on.

      • Dennis Frank 3.1.1

        Your critique is valid, yet somehow the ivory tower syndrome seems perpetual. Ought I to accept the institutionalised inadequacies like everyone else, or flag them? It depends on the merit of whistle-blowing as commentary praxis, huh? A signal about what's wrong often leads to remedial behaviour.

        So to be proactive, one ought to try and help those enmeshed in encultured negative thinking, to extricate themselves from their collective quagmire. Commentary onsite here normally directs such helpful energy towards rightist politicians. I just think it better to spread the goodwill around… wink

        • Drowsy M. Kram 3.1.1.1

          I just think it better to spread the goodwill around… wink

          By making "typical limp wrist" jibes about "ivory tower syndrome"?

          Tbh, some of your 'flags' about academic inadequacies are not unlike Seymour’s chip-on-shoulder ‘Regulatory Standards Derangement Syndrome’ pokes, huh?

          The Psychology of Mockery
          While some may argue that mockery is harmless, a reflection of playful rivalry or natural competition, psychology suggests otherwise. The impulse to mock often stems from emotional deficiencies, an inability to process emotions in a mature way, a learned behavior reinforced by social dynamics, or an unchecked sense of superiority that allows one to dehumanize the other. This kind of behavior has consequences, not just for those on the receiving end, but for the mockers themselves. Over time, habitual mockery erodes empathy, weakens emotional intelligence, and fosters an increasingly fragmented and cruel society.

          Just flagging my perception of an established pattern – "a signal about what's wrong often leads to remedial behaviour."
          wink

          • Dennis Frank 3.1.1.1.1

            Re Seymour, I agree with leftist critiques of him often enough to publish my own along similar lines, so no chance I'll concede that point!

            Yet I will concede your point on mockery, insofar as it endangers one if one allows oneself to habituate too much to it. So there's a general rule of politic conduct there which I can happily support. However I must add that the premise of being suckered by a bias is more like an old trap for young players than your quote suggests. Users must judge the suitability of a stance in each situation…

          • SPC 3.1.1.1.2

            The importance of civilian occupation of the Beehive.

            https://www.attali.com/en/society/the-solution-to-almost-every-problem-civility/

    • Incognito 3.2

      As usual, your snide swipe at the author stems from your infamous ingrained anti-academic bias. Your cynicism is not an opinion or counter-argument, but a negative and antagonistic attitude towards anybody who presents a progressive intellectual opinion that you may or may not agree with – it’s irrelevant as long as it provides you with a hook to spew your usual bilious venom. Your accusation of “the ivory tower syndrome” is misplaced too, of course. The author of the Newsroom article appears to have more worldly and relevant experience & expertise than an armchair sniper such as you.

      For example, I met with the moderate religious figure, Shaikh Maoz Al-Khatib, in Doha in April. Shaikh Moaz was the first leader of the main Syrian revolutionary forces and commands respect and legitimacy across ethno-sectarian and ideological divides in Syria (as related by some of my minority contacts), and yet he is ignored by the new Syrian government and international actors alike.

      Give it up!

  3. PsyclingLeft.Always 4

    Secondary teachers union rejects lowest pay offer ever

    The secondary teachers union has rejected a pay offer of one percent a year for three years.

    RNZ understands it is one of the lowest offers ever made to secondary teachers.

    The offer to members of the Post Primary Teachers Association amounts to a three percent pay rise over three years.

    That is well below the 14.5 percent over three years won through arbitration in 2023 and the average 10 percent over three years the union's members grudgingly accepted in 2019.

    Both of those settlements also included lump sum payments.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/567830/secondary-teachers-union-rejects-lowest-pay-offer-ever

    Surely a NACT1 protest march and strike coming then !

    Secondary teachers accept government pay offer

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/393194/secondary-teachers-accept-government-pay-offer

    • Stephen D 4.1

      PPTA will be asking its members what strike action may be appropriate. That is if the government doesn’t come up with an acceptable offer.

  4. Dennis Frank 5

    Republicans kick Epstein can down the road:

    More than two-thirds of Americans believe the Trump administration is hiding information about Epstein's clients, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted last week… In a sign of how the issue has bedeviled Trump and his fellow Republicans, U.S. House Speaker Mike Johnson on Tuesday abruptly said he would send lawmakers home for the summer a day early to avoid a floor fight over a vote on the Epstein files.

    Running scared of a groundswell double their own amount of public support! Murdoch's WSJ is reporting as fact info from top Trump officials, which the White House is declaring fake:

    U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi told President Donald Trump in May that his name appeared in Justice Department files related to financier Jeffrey Epstein, the convicted sex offender who died in prison, the Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday, citing senior administration officials. Reuters was not able to immediately verify the Journal's report, which the White House characterized as "fake news."

    When top capitalists dispute reality, public perception of who is right depends on the look of the thing rather than proof (which is usually thoroughly concealed). Gossip and rumour, key determinant of survival in social groups since the origin of language in the stone age, therefore drive the outcome as usual. Media is froth on that wave.

    https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/wall-street-journal-reports-trump-is-epstein-files-white-house-calls-story-fake-2025-07-23/

  5. I Feel Love 6

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/23/israel-gaza-starvation-humanitarian-groups-letter

    Not genocide, just war crimes. God this stuff is so ugly. Imagine supporting a regime that starves people on purpose.

    • Tiger Mountain 6.1

      Any faith in humanity dwindles as Palestinians are eradicated by the Israeli butchers in full public view.

      So many levels of genocide enablers-corporate /arms industry, US Imperialism, gutless EU, and shamefully neighbours like Egypt who could open access to UN trucks. The air conditioned Gulf States are cowards too, not wanting a taste of what Iran got.

      There needs to be a world wide boycott of Israel-sporting, culture, trade, travel. Governments apart from honourable exceptions like Ireland and Spain won’t go there so the ordinary people will have to.

  6. Hunter Thompson II 7

    According to Newsroom, conditions designed to safeguard New Zealand water from foreign-owned bottling operations are to be removed from the overseas investment regime, as part of changes advanced by the coalition Government.

    https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/07/23/overseas-investment-changes-to-undo-water-bottling-safeguard/

    Just as Forest & Bird Society will lose the fruits of its victory on the Ruataniwha dam issue (the dam is on the fast-track list) so too the Aotearoa Water Action group will lose theirs.

    All this makes me wonder how much money the overseas bottling companies paid to ACT as a political donation. Or do I have an over-active imagination?

  7. Drowsy M. Kram 8

    https://www.stats.govt.nz/topics/migration/

    The CoC is getting New Zealand back on track – one overseas experience at a time.