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A random thought following Te Kuini speech on Maori organising economically.
The fishing quotas that get allocated go to Kiwi ships with Kiwi crew.
Rather then the foreign flagged, foreign crewed slave vessels that plunder our resources.
Hi there.
That sounds like a nice plan and I agree it should be New Zealand owned ships and people crewing the boats.
It is Maori owned companies that own the quota that are getting the foreign vessels to catch their quota though.
I know it's a long way back in time but the 1992 Sealord deal was a Māori Fisheries Settlement that resolved Māori commercial fishing claims under the Treaty of Waitangi, granting Māori a 50% share of Sealord Products and a 20% share of all quota for new species entering New Zealand's quota system.
So Maori already own half of our biggest fishing company.
Maybe the Maori Queen could step in and buy the Sealord plant in Nelson that is shutting down with the cost of 79 jobs.
Thanks, the 50% ownership was a vague understanding I had.
The new leadership amongst tangata whenua may be ready to break away from the neo liberal mindset of doing business.
It would require those with existing funds to do this.
Looks like the long running saga of Tom Phillips taking his kids bush might be at an end. Tragic end and terrible all round. One burglar shot dead, a police man seriously wounded, and another person in custody.
Hope the kids are ok.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/572405/live-suspected-burglar-killed-police-officer-shot-in-waikato
RNZ are livestreaming the police speaking to media at 11am
just realised the person in custody might be one of the children. The last alleged sighting was of Phillips and one of the kids doing a nighttime break in.
more on Stuff
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360816194/police-responding-serious-incident-waikato
What a bind for that Waitomo community; protect their own from authorities because he lost child custody, or out him to protect the children.
This whole 3-year story is about to get told.
Awful for a small community.
I'm guessing we will be drip fed various aspects of the story, not sure we will get a lot of clarity for some time.
I’m guessing here, the father must have had outside assistance. The real tragedy, firstly the police officer who has been shot in the head, hopefully they will recover… Then the three children, they will be severely traumatised by this, hopefully they will get the care they need to be reintegrated into their mothers family
The reports say the officer shot is recovering.
True that and the media will feast on any scrap rather than wait for a comprehensive overview.
With the central figure unable to give his side anymore clarity will take quite a while after the dust settles as the kids will need alot of time.
Prayers for the kids, their mother and the injured officer to all recover.
Custody gone wrong, I knew a guy his story was horrific about his troubles over Custody and visitation, he's dead now , from a motorbike accident that I suspect he was looking for.
That's where I'd be examining in this case, men get the rough end of it in most cases if there is trouble.
Something similar is happening in my extended family, the father of the children is a toxic manipulative dick. He is not allowed unsupervised access, and is deliberately not engaging with the court process, which is extending the pain for the children’s mother and my extended family. My brother and myself do fear the guy may try something similar. The system when it comes to child custody and safety seems to make excuses for the toxic parents. It’s just heartbreaking all round, and then there’s the terrible effects this will have on the children.
Confirmed.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/572405/live-marokopa-dad-tom-phillips-killed-in-shootout-with-police
From the reports it is clear Phillips was a deranged fugitive who was never going to be taken alive. Once the kids are recovered and interviewed a lot of locals are going to be in a heap of grief with the law.
As well as all the hopes expressed for the health and wellbeing of the wounded police officer, the Phillips children, and their wider family (which I wholeheartedly share), I'd add another. Namely, that Phillips himself doesn't end up being mythologised as some sort of Robin Hood character, a beleaguered little guy sticking it to The Man. That he could well have been getting assistance from some misguided members of the community suggests that this is not necessarily a remote possibility.
All accounts I've read suggest he was a habitual offender who usually came prepared to use violence against his targeted victims, and who over the last four years had severely traumatised several people. Not at all a romantic figure worthy of admiration.
The children have been found!
Your comment seems a reasonable assessment. I'm sure there's more to the story in terms of the family breakdown that led to him going bush. But things seemed to be escalating, which I assume was part of the reason for laying the spikes to stop him.
The mythologising has been going on social media already, let's hope it stays there. Today there's a bunch of conspiracy stuff as well.
Way to give landlords a bad name in Queenstown.
Check that: action taken on behalf of 117 tenants!
Queenstown landlord fined more than $80k for boarding house breaches | Otago Daily Times Online News
We take gangs properties if they bought them through illegal practices, maybe we should do the same to scumlords.
Unfortunately the Tenancy Tribunal is a Civil jurisdiction, so proceeds of crime stuff doesn't apply.
The tenants can apply to have Ministry of Justice enforce the order, how effective that will be is anyone's guess. High likelihood the guy is just the head lessee of the properties, sub-letting to the final tenants, and has no assets the tenants and MOJ can get hold of.
There's likely multiple layers in this that could be criminalised, but there's respectable people making money all along the chain.
[Please fix the typo in your user handle, thanks – Incognito]
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A Proceeds of Crime Act amendment for criminal landlords surely shouldn't be too hard. Would make the Rental Property Warrant of Fitness a proper regulatory instrument that's for sure.
Nashy sacked for being a sock puppet for a donor at the cabinet table and then sold out by the same donor, tries to join a government where this is standard practice. Only missing the part where he talks about himself on 3rd person.
Shocked the Quigley stuff hasn’t brought anyone down.
We’ve scratched the surface and we’re just a bunch of nasty venal losers desperate for any approval from the US.
We’re guardians of some amazing landscape and important productive land. But we’re fkn that up. And ignoring our coastline falling in the sea.
Disappointing, yes, but Nicky No Boats is laser-focused on the Costcof living crisis.
Our CoC is ‘government’ by the sorted, for the sorted – let the sorted in
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/525687/billionaire-peter-thiel-eyes-possible-permanent-move-to-new-zealand
The major concern of voters is the cost of living.
The coalition is not seen as acting on their threeway mandate.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360816890/new-taxpayers-union-poll-sees-coalition-ousted
The Curia poll numbers:
Lab 33.8 Gre 10.7 TPM 4.3=48.8
Nat 33.1 ACT 6.7 NZF 8.1=47.9
When the Curia poll has the Greens getting 60% more votes than ACT, Seymour is in big big trouble. NZF seems to be stealing ACT's votes, which makes sense given the toxic far right positions being taken by Peters and Jones over the last couple of years.
TPM on 4.3 is impressive.
But would the Greens Party want to form a coalition at all? Managing from the cross-benches just didn't work 2020-2023.
What are you even talking about? The Greens weren't on the crossbenches in 2020-23:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/01/new-zealands-labour-and-greens-formally-sign-cooperation-deal
Sounds like you’re stirring to me. The Green membership ultimately decides the party position and the membership doesn’t want National led governments.
I was going by Weka's weird definition of 'being in government".
Not that weird. There have been various forms for government since MMP, including ones where there is an agreement with the party forming government but the other party sits outside of government
eg 2017 where Peters said NZF would only enter a coalition government with Labour if the Greens were excluded. But Labour still had confidence and supply agreement with the GP, and three ministerial portfolios, but crucially, those ministers sat outside of Cabinet.
That was sensible by Labour, because who tf can trust Peters, but also in terms of building a long term relationship with the GP.
In 2020 Labour got a majority, Peters had no power to manipulate, and Labour and the Greens had a co-operation agreement. Labour didn't need teh GP to form government. The two ministers were again outside of Cabinet.
So what would a L/G coalition government look like? Greens with Ministers in Cabinet and a formal coalition agreement. That's what NZF had with Labour in 2017.
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NZF excluded them in 2020. Greens provided the confidence and supply majority as a support partner
Labour had an absolute majority in 2023.
Labour and NZF 2005.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_New_Zealand_general_election
The Labour-Progressives government in 2002 received confidence and supply from United, rather than Greens as per 1999-2002 (disagreement over GE).
NZFirst weren't even in Parliament in 2020 election.
NZFirst outmuscled the Greens in the 2017 negotiations, no doubt. Hopefully Chloe can count.
Confidence and Supply is the much weaker form of government. After the devastation of this lot, we need an equally strong government.
So this will need the Greens at 10% at least and a full coalition agreement not some half assed weak thing. If you want to see delivery, check out how NZFirst ticked off their list in 2017-2020 from their iron-clad agreement.
Yes, I should have said 2017.
Outmuscled?
NZF made exclusion of Greens a condition of that coalition with Labour.
Labour did concur, lest NZF went with National.
That Peters, Mr New Zealand First, would enter a coalition with ACT, but not Greens, is why he is (and they are) not fit for government.
This is one way to combine green fields with urban intensity.
Better regional passenger rail.
Wellington – Wairarapa and Horowhenua-Manawatu
(Auckland – Whangarei and Hamilton-Tauranga)
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360816651/lower-north-island-get-brand-new-fleet-electric-trains
I'd love to know who won the argument against cheaper diesel trains against simion brown.
Out with the old, in with the new.
Back in the day (spare seats when people got off at their valley stops) people would use the trains from Upper Hutt or Waterloo to Wellington.
Great to see this reversal of Rodney Hide's gutting of transport out of political oversight by reducing Auckland Transport to a shell. Ideally we can now turn AT back into a simple Council department.
Restoring Democracy To Auckland’s Transport | Scoop News
Also excellent to see the big purchase of new electric trains between government, Greater Wellington Council, and Horizons Regional Council.
Missing in the release however is the Minister of Rail Winston Peters – a cold move by Bishop to exclude Peters since it would have been a gift to announce it at his Palmerston North Party conference this weekend gone.
All Aboard: New Electric Trains For Lower North Island | Scoop News
I wouldn’t be crowing just yet.
Yes, Auckland Transport is gone. But this isn’t the decisive win for local democracy some might think.
The government still gets to appoint half of the new Auckland Regional Transport Committee, giving Wellington significant influence over Auckland’s transport future. On top of that, Council remains constrained by the Government’s highly ideological GPS on transport, which limits its ability to do things many communities are calling for: such as reducing speed limits, introducing traffic-calming measures, and making local streets safer.
In many ways, this move represents yet more overreach by an already overmighty government that has made its contempt for local decision-making crystal clear.
For all its flaws, AT was least an attempt to move the transport conversation beyond short-term political populism. Beyond the endless debates about cost-cutting, speed limits, and traffic cones. Toward something resembling a coherent, long-term vision developed in partnership with Waka Kotahi.
It’s a pity it failed so badly to deliver on that promise.
I don't actually mind the government appointments. Central government pays for well over 60% of transport in Auckland once you include PT subsidies, maintenance subsidies, and major capex items.
I also like the improved delegations to local boards.
Every government gets to do their own GPS. So of course it's ideological.
Auckland Council on the other hand has had to be pulled kicking and screaming to generate a District Plan that actually strongly encourages intensive development around public transport nodes, so AT were well out of that truly ideological BANANA bullshit.
AT did some truly great things in particular the HOP card and the new integrated PT network, which continues to expand.
We'll have to wait and see whether CRL really is the promised transport revolution that AT started back in 2012.
This Philips thing has taken a particularly sickening turn.
It's proper New Zealand Gothic, with all the internecine post Family Court war about to be spilled out. It's going to be gruesome, because without a Court trial (since he's dead) every hack journalist and blogger will just make it up.
Pretty much, I do think charging him with wasting police time after the first 'camping excursion' was a massive fuck up.