Crushed Collins to ACT?

Judith Collins is probably the preferred choice for leader among Nat members – but of course they don’t get a say in the matter. Instead she had her bid quickly crushed in the back-room leadership process – seems she doesn’t have many friends among her colleagues.

Bill English has just made his opinion clear. While fellow leadership contender Coleman was left untouched, Collins was the biggest loser – demoted and stripped of her prized portfolios / posturing platforms, police and corrections.

What next for Collins? Burning ambition, a significant personal following, no future in National. Time jump to ACT? She must fancy her chances of taking over that pretend party and building it up to a “kingmaker” role.

53 comments on “Crushed Collins to ACT?”

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  1. 1

    I rather think that if National lose she will contest the leadership.

    If National win, then I suspect she’ll follow Dame Jenny into the boardroom

    1. 1.4

      She won’t quit her quest to be PM that easily. She’ll hang around like a fungus until it becomes in her mind an impossibility.

    1. 2.1

      Only by people who still think the world is a vaguely civilized place 🙁 There is a significant portion of the populace (a minority, I hope) who absolutely love the sort of rotten behaviour she displays

        1. 2.2.1.1

          Yeah, the generally corrupt will hold her up as some sort of hero. After all, she’s been getting away with all sorts corruption in the public eye for quite some time.

          1. 2.2.1.1.1

            most don’t pay enough attention to know how crooked she and some in the nats are , so you do the left a disservice when you accuse anyone who rates them as being corrupt,

            1. 2.2.1.1.1.2

              Getting away with corruption kinda implies that most of her supporters don’t understand that she’s corrupt. There are very few people out there who will put their hand up and say anything approaching: “Hey, you know the reason I love Judith Collins? Because she’s so corrupt.”

              Now, there’s a few that clearly think something along those lines. Certain cetacean byproducts, for instance. But the vast majority of people who like her are just conservative types who for whatever reason refuse to believe she’s corrupt.

    1. 3.1

      Well, being a support party can lead you to a certain type of infamy, to whit one Winston Peters. The thing is, you have to be a support party that could ostensibly side with either major bloc to maintain that status.

  2. 4

    In the unlikely event that she did move to ACT that would secure my Party Vote for them.

    Two electorate seats and say 3% of the Party Vote would be hugely to the benefit of New Zealand.

    1. 4.1

      😆

      Terry: Oh, one of your specials please Harry.
      John: One specials please son.
      Graham: One special coming up.
      John: Oh, I say, have you seen page eight? Nixon’s had an asshole transplant.
      Terry: Ohhh, have you seen the stop press then?
      John: No.

      Terry: The asshole has rejected him.

      Monty Python

  3. 7

    “Judith Collins is probably the preferred choice for leader among Nat members ”

    I doubt that very much. Judith has no friends either within or outside the party. The only known supporter she has in Blubber Boy.

    1. 7.2

      Enough is Enough,
      blubber boy is filthy on National and Labour at the moment.
      He seems to be lost by Collins non-promotion.
      Seems to be irrational.
      Unless he gets a grip he will lose supporters.

      English read her support within National right and his moves have strengthened his mandate.
      He will however, because he is still cautious, keep a eye on her as he re-shuffles again in May 2017.

      1. 8.1.2

        Neither is “arsehole”, but they definitely exist too. Point?

        Antisocial Personality Disorder is certainly formally recognized, and sociopaths and psychopaths are usually thought to be a subset. Though many argue that there is no meaningful difference between the three terms.

  4. 9

    She will stick around to see what happens with English next election. If National win, I’d bet she will move on to something else. I’m not sure why she challenged English. Poorly timed imo.

    1. 11.1

      I’m inclined to think she will live to fight another day in National – she’s arguably no more awful than the Shipley woman – they seem to have a fascination for Lady MacBeth types over there

  5. 12

    “Judith Collins is probably the preferred choice for leader among Nat members – ”

    Evidence? Polling?

    “but of course they don’t get a say in the matter.”

    Yes, they do. They get to tell the MP’s who they prefer.

    “What next for Collins?”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11769610

    National changed it’s leader in days. No petty public squabbles, no instability, just the seamless passing of the banner. Labour supporters look on with envy.

    1. 12.1

      Deckchairs are easy to move about on a sinking ship when passengers are oblivious regarding the lean the ship has developed, life rafts gone with already departed travellers and the ocean condition.

      All they hear is the band on the stern playing ‘a brighter future’ in slow waltz tempo.

    2. 12.2

      I’ll remember that next time say, a new boss gets installed over me that I technically “had a say” in that I could write a letter to the people who actually get to decide things.

      What a troll.

  6. 13

    A nothing story made up on a keyboard. Ah well. Summer is here. The BBQ talk is who will replace Angry Andy and when.

    1. 13.2

      Another made up keyboard story – I must say you’re rather good at them. Well good to be good at something I suppose.

    2. 13.3

      fisiani,
      unless Angry Andy absolutely falls away in the polls and he jumps ship then IMO nobody.
      English has now said he will not contest the Mt Albert by-election and this will probably boost Angry Andy’s fortunes.
      He could win the election in 2017.

    3. 13.4

      “A nothing story made up on a keyboard’

      stopped using quill and parchment a little while ago now bud

      do keep up !

    4. 13.5

      The talk is going to be about 50 shades of grey boring old Bill .
      When Barry Soper rips into Nationals
      Pathetic attempt to refresh you know National are in trouble.

  7. 15

    After seeing the Stuff “Private Business, Public Failure” interview with her as Corrections Minister on Friday, I knew her goose was cooked.

    But as for a jump to Act, shh, don’t give her any ideas!

    I’m happy to feed the JC-loving echo chamber believing Saint Judith is their lady and saviour.

    It was undignified though, what Blinglish did to her… leaving Crusher without Corrections or Police…

    On the plus side, some inmates at Mt. Eden will have a better Christmas now the decision to ban quakers from delivering them roses has been reversed the morning the new Corrections Minister stepped in. The timing was uncanny 😉

  8. 16

    Election 2017: big defeat for National.
    Bill English, Paula Bennett, Stephen Joyce all party seniors and all out of favour. Even if not out of favour, then spent forces.

    Who next to lead National and rebuild the party?
    If recent aspirations still apply, it would be out of Judith Collins, Simon Bridges, Jonathan Coleman vying for leader & deputy leader.

    And I know where my money would be.

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