Open mike 11/03/2012

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  2. 2

    The question for us who put him there; Does Len Brown’s definition of “The issue” meet the needs of the situation?

    I am guessing, not. What do others think?

    1. 2.1

      I think Matt McCarten says it well in the herald…

      Brown’s actions, or lack of them, over the port fiasco are perplexing.

      His officials set an impossible 12 per cent return for his port’s directors.

      When they ran into trouble I’m told the board offered the mayor their resignations. If true it was a master stroke. Because once he assured them of his support he was their puppet.

      No experienced politician who knows what they stand for would have been manoeuvred like this…

      …Anyone can be a leader when the going is easy. Leaders are judged by how they respond in a crisis.

      Our mayor built his career on the backs of the working class and the poor. He is now being tested whether he deserves their past loyalty or whether he was just another slick opportunist.

      In the next few weeks the real character and calibre of our mayor will be revealed. All of Auckland is watching. His chances of re-election and his legacy teeters.

  3. 3

    “The real challenge if I step into this, we have six other companies that we own that manage Auckland assets, like Watercare and Auckland Transport.
    Every time they have a problem, do I step myself into that?”

    In answer to Len’s question;

    Every time they have a problem, I step myself out-a that

    1. 3.1

      Translation: “The real challenge if I step into this stand up for them, we have six other companies that we own that manage Auckland assets, like Watercare and Auckland Transport.
      Every time they have a problem are attacked by unelected right-wing extremists, do I step myself into that stand up for them too?”

      1. 3.1.1

        What a difference a day makes, 24 little hours.

        Today on current affairs programme Q+A the Mayor said he wanted to step in to the dispute between the parties to find a solution.

        MUNZ press release 11/03/12

        The leader of the Maritime Union, Gary Parsloe has warmly greeted the Mayor’s offer to step into the dispute to find a solution. And has offered to meet at any time on any day.

  4. 4

    Go Penny!

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/6555638/Petition-stalks-Banks-Brash

    Labour MP Phil Twyford has tabled a petition calling for an investigation into the decision not to proceed with charges against John Banks and Don Brash as directors of the Huljich KiwiSaver scheme.

    Twyford won’t comment on the petition, which is the work of former Auckland mayoral candidate Penny Bright who is incensed that Banks, the minister for regulatory reform, escaped having to defend himself in court for signing a prospectus that contained false and misleading statements.

  5. 5

    A very good interview with David Shearer on Q+A. I’d prefer he didn’t try and talk for “New Zealanders”as much (something Goff did too much) but he generally came across well. Still early days for him.

    His (and Labour’s) biggest challenge is to reform their thinking and to take on board Shearer’s ideals. So far there’s been scant sign the Labour tropps are getting in behind their leader and helping promote his way.

    Shearer: “I’m not going to be a politician who takes petty snipes.”

    If he’s going to prove true to that he needs support from his MPs, and it would also help substantially if he got support from “The Standard” – posters and commenters here. There’s an opportunity to promote the new Shearer way rather than keep repeating past failures.

      1. 5.1.1

        would you support peter dunne if you didn’t agree with him pete?

        Depends on how big a disagreement. I mostly agree with most of what he says and stands for, and there’s nothing (political) relationship breaking.

        I don’t have strong feelings on asset sales, I don’t think they are anywhere near as big a deal as some people seem to think. I think it’s fair enough that National should promote one of their key policies, but my personal preference is for them to only proceed with about a half of their proposals – this could yet happen due to ‘market conditions”.

        Would those campaigning against asset sales accept a halfway compromise? Or is it an ideological all or nothing contest?

      2. 5.1.2

        Of course he would, he’d sell his soul to get his snout in the trough, as Dunne’s personal Comb Carrier. But as he missed out, he now has to work for a living and that must grate. As his usual drivel shows…. And the fact that he has NO strong feelings on Asset sales tells us that he would be yet another rubber stamper, for what ever crap bills /policies that The ‘Hair’ dreams up, or supports.

    2. 5.2

      What makes you think everyone on the Standard supports Labour.

      In fact, this last election is the first time Labour have had any vote from me since 1987. I voted for a Labour electorate candidate.

      If Labour are veering again towards the right wing of the party, which it looks like they are, they are doomed to irrelevance. Getting in only because they are slightly less damaging than National.

      In that case I suspect the Greens will be the future opposition to National.

      Labour has abdicated that role! They have been AWOL for the last 3 years apart from Goff’s effort (Which briefly, was rather good) just before the election.

      1. 5.2.1

        I didn’t claim everyone here supports Labour, obviously there are quite a few that don’t. But those that do have to decide if they want to get on board with their leader, or promote factional infighting and act against their leader’s principles.

        If they do the latter I agree, Greens may become the credible opposition.

        1. 5.2.1.1

          Still waiting to see what Shearer’s principles are!

          Are we going to find out before the next election?

          Or that he has none like Dunne!

          1. 5.2.1.1.1

            It’s been widely reported that Shearer is going to start announcing this week, and I presume he did the Q+A interview as a part of this communication process.

            I think David Shearer would get on well with Peter Dunne, they are the sort of people that would have mutual respect and be prepared to work together on policies of common interest.

    3. 5.3

      …and it would also help substantially if he got support from “The Standard” – posters and commenters here.

      Why? The people here at The Standard don’t necessarily support him.

      There’s an opportunity to promote the new Shearer way rather than keep repeating past failures.

      Says the person who’s part of a party that is supporting repeated failure.

  6. 6

    A two page fluff piece by Andrea Vance on Judith Collins in the National Party Dominion Post yesterday to distract the masses from Key’s plummeting popularity.

  7. 7

    Peter

    I thought that Shearer came across too dithering and while he was full of touchy feely platitudes there was little substance to the rhetoric. Admittedly my preference for labour leader has always been David Cunliffe.

      1. 7.1.1

        do any of you ever read what ‘mr reasonable’ pete george says about you all on rightwing blogs..?

        he has as many faces as his leader..dunne..

        ..with each of them as meaningless as the other..

        phil-at-whoar.

        2. 7.1.1.2

          I’ve been consistently hopeful that Shearer can against the odds turn Labour around.
          I’ve consistently said that New Zealand politics would benefit from a stronger Labour Party.

          And I’ve often promoted the sort of positive politics that Shearer that proposes – I could easily work with Shearer and his approach.

          And as usual all Ure does is attack with little more than dots.

        3. 7.1.1.3

          There once was a chap called Pete George
          Who learned to use a keyboard
          With waffling phrases
          And multiple faces
          And a guarantee that you’ll be bored.

          Only kidding Pete – love your work, no, really…am I going on too much?

  9. 9

    Shearer wasnt a stumbling as usual on Q&A so it was better,but he seems to stall at times,still lots of work to do.

  10. 10

    ‘We Travel and Equals or Not at All’ Joseph Arthur 2011
    Class-conscious music:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK_c4ne8fU8

    In the dark of grave yard chatter
    In the light of freedoms call
    In the heat of any matter
    We travel as equals or not at all
    Bloom disgust and class divide
    I saw it written on the wall
    The only way we can survive
    We travel as equals or not at all
    You can’t be in greater comfort
    As my pain prevents your fall
    The truth will come and tell us brother
    We travel as equals or not at all
    And when we get to where we’re going
    Past the divide past the stall
    Past the wind that’s always blowing
    Travel as equals or not at all
    You might have a greater income
    Or you might be dumb and dull
    But either way I won’t leave you
    Travel as equals or not at all
    So help me too in my slumber
    If I’m blind in madness hall
    If I’m deaf amongst the thunder
    Travel as equals or not at all
    Lift the way forget the ransom
    Free the chain and kick the ball
    Let our love take us higher
    Travel as equals or not at all
    And down the road
    And thru the sky
    And on the tracks
    Hear the gull
    Fly above us
    Without worry
    Travel as equals or not at all
    I hope your road takes you homeward
    And may you always outrun the law
    If I’m with you we will always
    Travel as equals or not at all
    I will catch you if your lost
    I will catch you if you fall
    Yes if I’m with you
    We will always
    Travel as equals or not at all
    Yes if I’m with you
    We will always
    Travel as equals or not at all

    1. 10.1

      Very inspiring words. I don’t remember hearing another aspirational song about moving together upwards since He Ain’t Heavy, He’s My Brother in the 70’s.

  12. 12

    We all remember those moments in time, where we were when some major event happened – it might be when we won a World Cup or were told of a major disaster (or found ourselves in one).
    On 22 February 2011, Christchurch had its moment for a lot of us that moment in time will be forever with us.

    Now it is 11 March 2012, one year to the day since we switched on our TV’s or had coverage interrupted by news of a major earthquake inducing a tsunami off the coast of Japan.We recall the footage of Japanese taking cover under whatever they could during the quake, the hasty evacuations as news of an impending tsunami spread and then the horror as the waves turned a strip of coastal Japan into one of the worlds biggest rubbish tips. Just as many Japanese did for Christchurch, lets give them the respect they deserve on this first anniversary.

    2. 12.2

      Just as many Japanese did for Christchurch, lets give them the respect they deserve on this first anniversary.

      Absolutely yes! They are still suffering. The BBC WS has a programme about it that I am listening to right now…

    1. 13.1

      Hi David, Im an active green party member, and ive noticed lately there is a swelling of anti-labour sentiment within the greens, particularly in the younger, urban new entrant range… Your comment above and your quip on TVNZ tonight about how Labours stance on foreign ownership is “stealing green policy” are also examples. I wonder what is the point is of the left attacking the left, its not constructive and its also a missed opportunity to support that policy. I hope that the greens instead focus on how to demand a far better deal with Labour next election and save the public criticism for the right.

      1. 13.1.1

        Salsy, I hope my post didn’t come across as anti-Labour but more disappointment that they weren’t doing the work.

        Down in the Deep South we have huge issues with water pollution, the proposed lignite mining, the attack on our national parks by business interests and some shocking industrial situations, yet we have had little attention from Labour regarding any of these outside the election campaign. But we have had a continual flow of Green MPs personally visiting to learn about the issues, meeting with important stakeholders and genuinely attempting to find solutions.

        At the Matuara festival in January that was organized to look at the lignite issue we had one ex Green MP and four current ones attending, not one Labour MP even made an appearance. If the Greens were to contemplate a future coalition with Labour we would prefer a party that stood true to its values, not one still trying to have a bet each way.

  14. 14

    Can you imagine if Len Brown was an overseas share holder of energy assets and he wanted 12% more productivity or profit?

    This is the sort of scenario which will occur with the loss of control over the energy asset shares.

  15. 15

    bloody hell..!..over 300,000 people gobble sleeping pills each night…?

    ..taking this highly addictive crap peddled to them by unscrupulous drug companies…

    ..and their willing/well-paid minions/pushers..doctors..

    ..why don’t they just smoke a bloody joint..?

    ..non-addictive..

    ..and they will sleep like babies…

    ..(‘it’s an upside down world..alice’…)

    phil-at-whoar.

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