Nine years of National rule brought us …

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Categories: Economy, housing, national, same old national

One of the worst consequences of nine long years of National rule presented by that well known left wing periodical the Financial Times.

56 comments on “Nine years of National rule brought us …”

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      1. 1.1.1

        He doesn’t I suspect – Indiana posts links to extreme libertarian views on tax etc – leaping to the defence of the wealthy.

          1. 1.1.1.1.1

            Exactly – the Libertarian Dream of low tax and small government already exists – it is called the Third World.

    2. 1.2

      Rather than arguing the relative ranking – even being middle of OECD is far too much. Who cares if we are #1 or #20, if we have thousands living in cars and under bridges?? As a very wealthy country, we should have close to zero homelessness.

      To help you to go ahead anyway and try and defend the Nats shameful performance, here are some links for you:

      The actual OECD report I think (pdf):
      https://www.oecd.org/els/family/HC3-1-Homeless-population.pdf

      Newshub report of Yale Study, which RWNJ were quick to argue about:
      http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/07/nz-s-homelessness-the-worst-in-oecd-by-far.html

      NZ Herald examination of NZ homeless claims, which includes National denial arguments for you (e.g. living in a car isn’t really homeless etc – go the Brighter Future!):
      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11908336

    4. 1.4

      It’s complete bullshit as everyone measures homelessness differently.

      For example

      New Zealand homelessness is defined as
      “living situations where people with no other options to acquire safe and secure housing: are without shelter, in temporary accommodation, sharing accommodation with a household or living in uninhabitable housing.”

      While Japan which has the lowest level of homelessness only counts those living rough as homeless.

      http://www.oecd.org/els/family/HC3-1-Homeless-population.pdf

      1. 1.4.1

        Yep, UncookedSelachimorpha called it.

        Bitch about the ranking against one or two other countries, ignore the actual problem, sleep soundly in your own bed with ne’er a thought about how lucky you are or the hardships of others.

        1. 1.4.1.1

          Doesn’t appear to be much hardship these days, you no longer hear about homelessness, for a while it was nothing but wall to wall stories on homelessness.

          I give credit where credit is due the COL has done a great job finding homes for everyone, homelessness has obviously been defeated.

          1. 1.4.1.1.1

            “Doesn’t appear to be much hardship these days, you no longer hear about homelessness, ”

            Then pay attention.

            http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11955097

            http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11948898

            http://hawaiipublicradio.org/post/asia-minute-homelessness-growing-issue-new-zealand

            https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/344382/tram-incident-sparks-debate-over-homelessness

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/99065678/wellington-musicians-highlight-frontline-services-for-the-homeless

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/99595186/auckland-city-missions-13m-christmas-shortfall

          3. 1.4.1.1.3

            “Doesn’t appear to be much hardship these days”

            Are you ignorant, foolish or a sociopath?

            https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/childrens-commissioner-slams-nz-child-poverty-rates-unacceptable-in-country-like-ours

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/99631572/officials-housing-causes-stark-inequality-between-young-and-old

            https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/345600/aucklanders-already-lining-up-for-xmas-food-parcels

            https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/345690/how-is-a-parent-supposed-to-survive-on-20

            http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/12/the-cost-of-christmas-for-auckland-s-needy.html

            https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/lot-women-in-vulnerable-space-female-homeless-shelter-opens-up-christchurch

            http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/12/ways-to-help-those-who-are-struggling-at-christmas-time.html

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/99590265/salvation-army-report-outlines-new-zealands-most-forgotten-communities

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/99522911/come-and-see-us-vulnerable-new-zealand-communities-feel-forgotten-report-says

          4. 1.4.1.1.4

            Ignore, deny, blame – the standard tactics of conservatives when faced with evidence that their ideology harms people:
            Stage One: Ignore that the problem exists
            Stage Two: If confronted with evidence, deny the validity of the evidence
            Stage Three: If the evidence can’t be denied, then blame the victims
            You don’t always have to start at stage one, or follow these in strict sequence, start at any point, cycle round as you please, rinse and repeat.

            2. 1.4.1.1.4.2

              Actually, you forgot Nationals biggest one they kept relying on
              Stage Four: Blame the previous Government for the problem, even though all the evidence points to the fact it was caused by your Government policies.

          5. 1.4.1.1.5

            You don’t live in Auckland do you BM. The soup kitchens are still busy, the marae are still full, the hotels are still being used.

            And still homeless sleep in cars, doorways, and in parks right across the city.

            But BM can turn a blind eye because the corporate media say nothing. What a low cop out.

          6. 1.4.1.1.6

            homelessness exists in our town, people are living in cars because there are virtually no houses available to rent and ones that come up because of the demand and escalating house prices the rents are exorbitant

      2. 1.4.2

        Someone else prepared to defend our disgraceful levels of inequality and homelessness.
        Please watch this before you make any more ill-informed, ignorant comments.
        Shame on you.

      3. 1.4.3

        It’s complete bullshit as everyone measures homelessness differently.

        NOPE BM


        Look at the 4th Column which give a Yes No to
        Figures include more than persons 1) living rough, 2) living in emergency accommodation, and 3) living in accommodation for the homeless?

        Yes include, with % of pop unhoused (as per question)
        Australia 0 .47
        , Czech 0.65
        ,Denmark 0.1
        estonia, 0.06
        Finland,0.13
        Germany, 0.42
        Greece,0.19
        Latvia, 0.11
        Luxemborg, 0.15
        Mexica,0.04
        Netherland,0.18
        Newzealand 0.94
        Norway .0.13
        poland, 0.10
        Sweden 0 .36

        NOTE NZ 0.94%, the highest, then next is Czeck 0.65%

              1. 1.4.3.1.1.1.1

                Did you know that dv’s comment at 1.4.3 addresses those people who are living rough, in emergency accommodation or homeless accommodation?

                Did you know that it shows we’re the worst by that definition too?

                If not, please learn to read.

                Edit: and I can keep duplicating this comment for every single time you try to continue your dishonesty on this issue.

              2. 1.4.3.1.1.1.2

                So you didn’t read the OCED data?
                Or AOB,s comment re the criteria.

                It is Broad BUT it still places our homelessness at the top of the OECD!!!

          2. 1.4.3.1.2

            Did you know that dv’s comment addresses those people who are living rough, in emergency accommodation or homeless accommodation?

            Did you know that it shows we’re the worst by that definition too?

            If not, please learn to read.

          4. 1.4.3.1.4

            there are people living in cars here in my small town, no houses available and what are charge rents that are way over the top

            1. 1.4.3.1.4.1

              Hi loretta.

              I noticed a couple of comments from you sitting in the pending queue in the ‘back-end’. All first comments from new users drop in there until someone approves them.

              All comments you make in future will come straight to the front end.

      4. 1.4.4

        well i guess if you pitch a tent in a ditch or in a park you are technically not homeless, you are a freedom camper. Right?

      5. 1.4.5

        So living “in temporary accommodation, sharing accommodation with a household or living in uninhabitable housing” is all fine and dandy by you? As long as you have shelter, then things are okay? That might be a non-progressive right-wing and basically hateful position to take, but most people would say it’s not acceptable.
        You, too, could lift your sights if you really wanted them lifted.

      6. 1.4.6

        Weird the OECD report you link to has NZ still doing worse than countries that have a broader definition of homelessness, including Aus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Latvia, Mexico, Luxembourg, Netherland, Norway, Poland, Sweden, and the USA.

  2. 2

    The Nats’ must be pleased with their efforts – and so must the 46% of New Zealanders who support them (the callous, heartless pricks). OTOH, the ball is now firmly in Labour’s court – I’m sure its champion player, Mr Twyford, is on top of things and look forward to a massive increase in social housing by this time next year.

    1. 2.1

      the 46% of New Zealanders

      At the election, 35% of enrolled voters supported National: about 25% of the population.

      It’s not great, but it isn’t as bad as 46% implies.

      2. 2.2.2

        Really? Erm, no, it turns out you are either ignorant of the policy, or lying about it. Or perhaps you were duped by a third party.*

        In the coming three years, KiwiBuild aims to gradually ramp up to 10,000/year high-quality affordable new residences for first-home buyers, half in Auckland, to build 100,000 residences in a decade.

        Twyford said it would take about three years for the programme to kick into full-strength, starting out at a few hundred or possibly 1000 residences in the first year.

        My bold.

        *Care to comment? I’m fascinated by how people start believing lies.

  3. 3

    One very relevant recent article on the grand plans to address homelessness by a private building boom, especially in brownfield development in popular areas:

    ‘”Walker said it seemed Auckland Council tried to be helpful but there appeared to be no penalties for the developers when things went wrong….Council workers have admitted to me that they don’t have the resources to keep up with the building demand. They are well aware of a certain sector in the industry cutting corners, but they’re almost powerless to do anything about it….’

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/99540064/building-is-booming-but-what-are-neighbours-rights

  4. 4

    So it was .76% in 2001, .83% in 2006 (increasing) and 1% in 2013. The 2013 figures no doubt include a number of houses that were destroyed in Christchurch so i am not at all surprised that the number increased.

    http://www.otago.ac.nz/news/news/otago613529.html

    So by the above numbers, we were still way out in front in 2006 based on the OECD figures.

    What will be interesting is the figures in the next census.

  5. 5

    An economy that is the top of the OECD and is the envy of the rest of the OECD,
    low inflation, low interest rates, high employment rates, New Zealand;s reputation shining overseas, better wages, more benefits for workers, a better Kiwi saver
    scheme, awesome work in Christchurch, and two of the best Prime Ministers this country has ever had, bar none. Competence and common sense. Thanks National, you are in my dreams and prayers. The list is endless, National improved NZ one hundred percent in nine short years! Sir John Key and Bill English deserve more than mere medals!! Labour must wish they were them.

    1. 5.1

      Why is it every time I see the name Tanz on the comments section I can’t wait to read her latest feverish homage to the Nats. It makes me feel so good. 😛

        1. 5.1.1.1

          I’m finding Tanz pretty funny lately, too.

          Sort of how the nats are the winningest winners, with the bestest prime ministers, everybody loves them… Ardern must really be a giant-killer, persuading NZ1 to turn their backs on such awesomeness 🙂

          1. 5.1.1.1.1

            Winston Peters was just looking for vengeance against the Nats, and Bill English, for old scores. This is well known. Also, I suspect that National just wouldn’t give him what he wanted, at seven percent support and with no electorate seat, and told him to take his greed elsewhere, even if it meant Opposition for awhile. Good on them, integrity and did not sell their souls for power, unlike some. When Winston gave his speech on the night he anointed Labour, he looked both angry and unconvincing, that’s why I suspect it was National who shunned him.

            2. 5.1.1.1.1.2

              Winston Peters was just looking for vengeance against the Nats, and Bill English, for old scores. This is well known.

              If true then perhaps the Nats shouldn’t play dirty then there wouldn’t be any old scores to settle.

              But, of course, Nats aren’t capable playing any other way as they simply don’t have any honour.

              Good on them, integrity and did not sell their souls for power, unlike some.

              So, why have you and all the other RWNJs been whinging about NZ1st going with Labour instead?

              And then there’s the reports that National actually offered more baubles in an attempt to buy Winston and he turned them down. This tends to indicate that the honour and integrity doesn’t lie with National.

              When Winston gave his speech on the night he anointed Labour, he looked both angry and unconvincing,

              No, he looked absolutely fucken exhausted.

              Meanwhile, all of the National MPs and a lot of the other RWNJs looked like they were chewing rocks after being denied power.

    2. 5.2

      The graph reported in the Financial Times comes from the OECD, you fucking moron.

      If the economy is performing so well how come you right wing trash have to shit on homeless families?

    6. 5.6

      National improved NZ one hundred percent in nine short years! Sir John Key and Bill English deserve more than mere medals!!

      Pfft, their achievements are vanishingly small when compared to those of dear leader Kim Jong Il of the DPRK:


      * The fledgling leader was a genius as an infant, with official North Korean biographies stating that he had learned to walk at just 3 weeks and was talking at 8 weeks.

      * As a junior high school pupil in Pyongyang, he corrected and chastised his teachers for their incorrect interpretations of history.* Kim wrote six full operas in two years, “all of which are better than any in the history of music,” according to his official biography.

      * He designed the Tower of the Juche Idea, a 170-metre tower in the east bank of the River Taedong in central Pyongyang that is topped by a glowing red flame.

      * Kim’s official biography also claims that he wrote 1,500 books during his time at Kim Sung Il University, from where he graduated in 1964.

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