Yep, its that time again when readers are reminded of some of the lies John Key told in the lead-up to and in the seven years since his National Ltd™ came to power. No doubt there will be a bunch more lies to be added later today when John Key presents his “State Of The Nation” address and, in doing so, further bolsters his legacy as the most dishonest Prime Minister New Zealand has ever had. So, from the top . . .
We seek a 50% reduction in New Zealand’s carbon-equivalent net emissions, as compared to 1990 levels, by 2050. 50 by 50. We will write the target into law.
the price of goods and services has risen by 6 percent since the last election, while the after-tax average wage has actually gone up by 16 percent
no, although its a week ago and here I am being interviewed on television about them, I havn’t seen Gerry Brownlee’s comments regarding demolitions in Christchurch and which caused such outrage, but I can talk all about them
oh, maybe our SAS soldiers were in the Kabul hotel gun fight but they weren’t wounded by friendly fire
New Zealand has lost $12 billion from GDP due to the Christchurch earthquake . . . oh, it might actually be around $15 billion from GDP due to the Christchurch earthquake . . . Blinglish said what?
Labour has promised to not revoke the Sky City legislation
the construction of the new SkyCity convention centre will not cost taxpayers or ratepayers a cent with SkyCity meeting the full project costs in return for some concessions from the Government
the GCSB needs to spy on New Zealanders because of the terrorist threat, even though official reports released over my signature say there is no risk and the SIS has the matter in hand
Ummm . . . now that people are paying attention, the programme got underway but I stopped in in March 2013 or, askshully, it might have been September 2013.
National Ltd™ has been working on a number of things with New Zealand First on a number of things one of which has a financial component but I can’t talk about it
the money from the sale of state assets will not be used to prop up Solid Energy
I don’t see a place for a Winston Peters-led New Zealand First in a government that I lead. It’s not a matter of political convenience, it’s a matter of political principle.
This summer is the most active season ever for oil and gas exploration, with the industry spending up to $750 million. At the same time, the Government is strengthening the regulations that govern drilling, particularly in deep water.
Labour is trying to mislead people about eligibility for Best Start because they don’t get the payment while they also get paid parental leave.
A mountain of evidence shows that the quality of teaching – inside the classroom – is the biggest influence on kids’ achievement
Governor General Jerry Mateparae has been jostled while walking onto Te Tii Marae at Waitangi .
Cameron Slater, who I speak to regularly and who told me about Winston meeting Kim Dot Com, has got absolutely nothing to do with the National Party.
The Cabinet Office has cleared Collins of a conflict of interest after it translated comments on Oravida’s website which stated that she had praised its products
My Justice Minister, Judith Collins, didn’t lie to Parliament, she just didn’t understand the question.
The [MFAT] paperwork shows right through this that not only did the Minister have a very busy programme, all on judicial and justice issues, but, secondly, all the way through it talks about a private dinner.
The economic mess inherited by the Abbott government in Australia can be likened to the economic mess inherited by National Ltd™ when it came into office in 2008.
I have not been in contact with Cameron Slater ahead of the release of Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Cheryl Gwyn’s report into the SIS’s role in Slater’s 2011 political attack on former Labour Leader Phil Goff.
As long as Simon Bridges didn’t get any policy advice from his officials about developing the “10 bridges for your vote!” bribe, then there’s no possible problem under the Cabinet Manual.
Labour did the same thing as Bridges when it used “officials actually in my opinion actually” to get policy advice as they did in the 2008 campaign with deposit guarantees, but they actually maybe they shouldn’t have done it”
I assumed that all ten bridges up for double-laning in Northland were justified on a cost benefit analysis
Claims the GCSB was planning to hack into a data link run by the Chinese embassy are unproven.
Nick Smith Smith was helpfully providing journalists with a “conceptual” view of the amount of vacant land in Auckland, not necessarily places where houses might be built.
Between 3000 and 4000 refugees were welcomed into New Zealand every year once the family reunification scheme was taken into account.
New Zealand is sixth in the world when it comes to accepting in UNHCR refugees.
Formal advice from the Inland Revenue Department states that the removal of the $1,000 kickstart contribution will not make a blind bit of difference to the number of people who join KiwiSaver
the Saudi sheep farm deal was for the purchase of services, intellectual property, and a network of contacts
When asked by Radio New Zealand about what exact services, intellectual property, and contacts New Zealand gained from the deal I answered the questions absolutely but Susie Fergusson didn’t want to hear that the whole issue was Labour’s fault
The Saudi sheep farm deal was never about compensation even though I said earlier it was because Labour left the government liable for a claim for compensation
My government’s target of reducing 100% Pure Clean Green New Zealand’s greenhouse gas emissions to 11 percent below 1990 levels by 2030 is not inadequate.
“To accept any other flag … we would have to change the law, and we’re not going back to Parliament to change the law.” John Key Sep 7.
Assets bought out of the < a href= http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/281741/pm-accused-of-breaking-election-promise> Future Investment Fund</a> will be long-lived, here in New Zealand, and owned by the Crown on behalf of all taxpayers
The biggest problem we have today is that everything is filtered through the MSM. We literally have no way of knowing how people will perceive or respond.
“New Zealand was settled peacefully” was that there? Thats an overwhelming list of lies, though a good resource to link to. Also in the print version of the ODT last week he said something like “Everything National have done has been proven to be correct”, It was from the Sunday Herald but the online version is different to the one I read. But this “…followed by a road-trip with his wife, Bronagh, from Los Angeles to San Francisco.” I would even doubt the veracity of that cute little story.
This is an incredible list. What indeed is going on with the man that has apparently been so popular ….
It’s not doing any good hiding this list inside this website, needs to be distributed far and wide !!
There are lots and lots of people unhappy with the state of NZ but they all complain to each other on blog sites and face book groups that the wider public never ever see – instead they are brainwashed by msm.
if its the case with the previous lists this list will surface in many different places, over and over again and time and time again as is the way with things on the net
however no matter what currently the mainstream media dominate the public discourse on how well the public perceive the govt to be doing – thats reflected in polls and the previous two elections, a large chunk of the public are willingly ignorant and quite happy with the status quo
we seem to live in an age where with good media handling any scandal can be survived by a “popular” (powerful) man – cameron and key are testament to this (pigs and ponytails). Hopefully this won’t be the case for too long as the consequences for our nation and species are getting really really serious if we don’t enact real change
saying all that the opposition (labour) could do a shitload (understatement) more to present a valid alternative
Key will dish out as many lies as kiwis are prepared to lap up.
“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.”
Matthew 7: 13.
How about sending a copy of your ‘list’ to Bryce Edwards? I don’t read his political column on a regular basis because I’m sick of the inherent bias in what – and who -he chooses to highlight and his fence-sitting.
However it would be interesting to see what he did with it – if anything.
October 22, 2015 John Key had this to say in the Taranaki Daily News when last visiting the province.
” This summer is expected to be the biggest season in prospecting we’ve seen around NZ. These oil companies take a very long term view in determining where their supplies are.”
Regardless of your views on oil & gas exploration, his statement was a blatant lie. The summer of 2015/16 was never going to be a busy one for “prospecting”.
It seems like only yesterday that his government were using the province as their provincial flag bearer for creating the conditions for economic growth, i.e. high milk prices, oil exports returns were in the top five overseas earnings.
Oh dear, how the mighty have fallen.
Thanks, BLiP, for the tally-keeping. What worries me about all this, is that many do not care. For instance, I listened to a RNZ vox pop survey yesterday on the TPPA. Most had no idea what the TPPA was.
The other lesson I had reinforced with your video of Key above- that the camera lies, as well. As with the vox pop, it’s all in the hands of the editor as to the truth or otherwise.
FIRST – its not my video. I stole it off someone on Twitter.
And, yeah, the level of deliberate, almost belligerent, ignorance about the goings on of John Key and his National Ltd™ neoliberal thugs is amazing. I can’t understand it. My latest theory is that there are lots of reasons but one of the main ones is that National Ltd™ voters cannot or will not accept that they have been duped. I think its too embarrassing for them. The other reason is that, so far as I can tell, you could probably just squeeze a Zigzag paper between National™ and Labour policies; “they’re all liars and useless, better the devil you know”, and all that.
Lols, it’s in the Cassette Boy vein. Now many will surely be familiar with Cameron’s conference rap:
With our PM, we have plenty of material to hand over to Cassette Boy to create a similar video. Cameron and Key, are after all cut from the same CT cloth, right down to the samey sort of sloganeering, It would be very easy material for them to work with.
As for the reasonings behind the inertia of voters to accept Key and co’s state of affairs I would agree with this:
“My latest theory is that there are lots of reasons but one of the main ones is that National Ltd™ voters cannot or will not accept that they have been duped. I think its too embarrassing for them.”
Just looking at my immediate and extended family, that’s the truth of it. They’ve gone from fawning praise for Key, to embarrassed silence over the years. There really is an air of “don’t mention the war”. If I do mention anything political the atmosphere gets really tense with silent defensiveness. Very interesting to watch the changed behaviour.
What do the family think of Winston? They don’t think. They are still in an FPP mindset and see just two flavours, red and blue.
They have been born and will die being Nat supporters so their minds are set like concrete. Voting NZ First wouldn’t even occur to them despite their discomfort with Key. It would be a radical act for them to vote for a minor party, as their party vote, because they don’t yet understand MMP. To sum up, they vote, they don’t think.
I do hope other Nat supporters with a bit more mental flexibility and curiosity may consider NZ First though. They have quite a bit to offer the conservative voter.
The first reason I prefer. There is a known phenomenon that voters like to have chosen the winner. From that, it follows that few like to admit that they were wrong with their choice.
Unless they’re angry at being betrayed, sold out, or conned.
The “Don’t vote, it only encourages them” meme has been around for a long time- since 1999 at least, when I heard it often. This is a view that gives the Right some advantage, since those right-leaning voters will generally always vote, as they know that politics, and its attendant power, does matter.
“They’re all the same” is a variant of this. I don’t believe in the zig-zag paper. There is a lot of difference between the major parties. Labour is yet to update and articulate its policies, but general positions are different from National on many issues. I know many on the Left believe otherwise.
It does suit the Right to have this view promulgated. Obviously, though, the more Left the Labour Party, the more it is differentiated from National, but the more the centrist voter is deterred. After eight years in opposition, Labour has had few chances to actually act on its beliefs as different as they are to National’s.
Where I come from, water quality is an issue in the south of this electorate. The Labour position at elections that I know about was that government money should be addressing this basic human necessity and right. At the moment, after
eight years of National, and a change of MP, nothing has happened. Too big for local bodies, especially when ECAN was neutered undemocratically- another big point of difference, surely.
That’s at one electorate level.
At national levels there are more big differences to be expounded- troops overseas, unemployment, student debt and cost of education, taxation, health, foreign involvement in our economy, the TPPA, housing both for the State and private sectors………….
The list verges well into the hysterical.
blip obviously does not know what constitutes a lie.
It follows the tradition of attacking Honest John Key and trying to make mud stick. Keep on compiling a list. Let me help you and give you a few from later today.
It’s nice to talk to you (LIE)
My government will help the poor with biggest benefit rise in a generation (LIE)
I had a good break and feel refreshed (LIE)
We have lots of exciting reforms to undertake this year (LIE)
we want to make it easier for people to buy a home (LIE)
Our troops are doing a good job in Iraq (LIE)
blah blah blah….
Fisi is an ardent JK supporter, shares the same habits, hence the lies (BS).
Don’t for get the fact that the ratio of benefits to applicants has gone down to 18% along with reducing the number of registered unemployed to 250k by changing eligibility rules.
They may pay slightly more, but to a hell of lot less recipients, but fisi or jk won’t tell you that.
An appalling list of deceptions but not surprising Mr Key so well regarded and a genuine all round great bloke would tell the man or woman on the street that the sky was orange and they would look up and see exactly that. I always had the misconception that if u misled parliament it was a serious offence obviously not as he can lie get caught out and rush back and retract his statement to the house and all is forgiven his arrogance and contempt is horrifying. At least Richard Nixons crimes were exposed by people wanting and demanding the truth and a high standard of ethics that they believed should be exercised at all times how standards have changed .New Zealanders will eventually end their love affair but it will be too late.
alias, I think it is already too late. this currently run b/shitting,fascist govt have slowly been selling this country out and importing their own voters in to look after then.
Congratulations on fine work BLiP. Is it really 433 so far? Thats a lot of porkies even for a leader whose default setting is deception. I hear the sound of a lot of air being sucked through his teeth.
I honestly wonder if this is one of the biggest mistakes, those who want to see National lose, make. I am by no means a fan of this government but I can’t help but think they learnt a lesson in their 9 years of opposition that the current opposition has not.
For the first two terms of the Clarke period National would try and attack her personally. Be it paintings, getting to rugby games or the not so direct rumours about her sexuality and marriage. None of this worked. Labour remained high in the polls. It wasn’t until the 3rd term where they switched and started attacking Labour as a whole and painting the entire party. This was seen with Light bulbs, shower heads and the whole Nanny State meme.
Why did this change work. Because most of the population has a negative impression of politicians as a whole. When you try and paint one as bad it is in relation to what is perceived as every one being bad. More than this people think of politics as being a bunch of kids misbehaving in parliament like they are in the school ground. Any attacks on each other outside of the house seem to be extensions of this and so not really important.
However if you paint a party as a group who will interfere in your life and impact on your rights well then you will start to get a turn in attitude. National learnt this.
So what do we see from current opposition. Attempts to try and paint a guy who seems like a normal decent sort of guy as evil. The most that is ever achieved is people think he is as bad as any other politician. Even if a truly huge scandal was to land, National could cut him loose, blame him as a solo bad person, and replace him with the next one in line. Continue to sell the message of steady as she goes and we won’t mess with you.
I suppose in summery I think more focus needs to go on negative impacts to the populace rather than why all the current government are such bad people. Yes John Key has told a lot of lies in his time. I think the last 7 years has shown that trying to yell this is not effective.
Agree with what you’re saying, but the media was a lot more balanced then, now it’s the mouthpeice for the govt, it’s hard for any one with an opposing view to gain any traction as you well know, there aren’t many around today (reporters critical of the govt).
Exactly Mosa. We must not close our eyes and ears, and BLiP helps us to be aware of the staggering mound of lies the Prime Minister of New Zealand has uttered. Thankyou BLiP, stirling work.
I think r0b was unfortunate’y spot on when he wrote in his post on January 25th about post reality based politics regarding Donald Trump and described Key as “another herald of this brave new world”
“Donald Trump Says He ‘Could Shoot Somebody’ and Not Lose Voters.
“They say I have the most loyal people — did you ever see that? Where I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn’t lose any voters.” he said. “It’s like incredible.” …”
Yes, it is incredible. And given the crap that Trump has put out there – all the while increasing his lead – it doesn’t even seem impossible…….
Trump knows that he has gone beyond an old fashioned reality-based politics of consequences and accountability, and that his supporters are so “loyal” that they will lap up anything. I think that John Key is another herald of this brave new world. ….”
A world devoid of truth, how hideous. (my words).
(Apologies, have forgotten how to enter gigantic quotation marks which would have made this comment clearer, will try and relearn for future.)
People are waking up and realising Key is a joke and the Natz are dangerous. The National strategy (which seems to be working so far) is to tie up the opposition in trivia and small projects with an onslaught of extreme changes, so that there is confusion and no massive co ordinated attack on the National party by opposition parties that reaches the public or dents them in any real way.
A bit like you trolling this blog every day of your wretched excuse for a life.
[lprent: Incorrect at two levels. If he was trolling then he’d be banned, I’m not exactly pleasant about that behaviour. Having a different opinion isn’t trolling, and when anyone’s behaviour steps over the line I or one of the other moderators would have a tendency to ban. ]
My barrow aint big enough to carry all that around but if i give it ago the photo might be as famous as the one from the 30’s illustrating inflation of a worthless currency
Prediction of $70 US a barrel for oil this time next year, hows he goin to lie his way out of that one
Good to have the update, and thanks for all the work BLiP. A bit of feedback, the huge list of categories is distracting and creates unnecessary scrolling. It makes the front page today look esp bad.
The biggest problem with the Key govt is that they have continue their party’s agenda to destroy the power of the unions started by Bolgers govt and Roger Douglas
Also their stated aim to rid the country of socialism and communism as a founding principle of their party
All their politics is has that in it no matter what time of the day they front up
If any one sees that as democratic they got to be FITH
John Key says the majority of New Zealanders want the TPPA signed. This is a big fat lie because over 50% said no. Roughly 30% said yes and the rest don’t care on the poles.
Prime Ministets are evaluated more by what they do than what they don’t do.
Key has made sure what he says is increasinly trivia bar set pieces, but what his government changes has effect.
Not supporting him at all, but you will see today what I mean.
The biggest problem we have today is that everything is filtered through the MSM. We literally have no way of knowing how people will perceive or respond.
That’s less true than ever.
The MSM is weakening very fast, and Key himself is our most directly accessible PM.
All things are relative I guess (in terms of accessability). You implied above that we will see something today, care to say what it is?
When you say PMs are more evaluted by what they do than what they don’t do, who is doing the evaluating?
I’m asking these questions in the context of the post.
The other parties in NZ do not have access to MSM and are often misreported by compliant commentators.
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“New Zealand was settled peacefully” was that there? Thats an overwhelming list of lies, though a good resource to link to. Also in the print version of the ODT last week he said something like “Everything National have done has been proven to be correct”, It was from the Sunday Herald but the online version is different to the one I read. But this “…followed by a road-trip with his wife, Bronagh, from Los Angeles to San Francisco.” I would even doubt the veracity of that cute little story.
Yes, 333.
This is an incredible list. What indeed is going on with the man that has apparently been so popular ….
It’s not doing any good hiding this list inside this website, needs to be distributed far and wide !!
There are lots and lots of people unhappy with the state of NZ but they all complain to each other on blog sites and face book groups that the wider public never ever see – instead they are brainwashed by msm.
if its the case with the previous lists this list will surface in many different places, over and over again and time and time again as is the way with things on the net
however no matter what currently the mainstream media dominate the public discourse on how well the public perceive the govt to be doing – thats reflected in polls and the previous two elections, a large chunk of the public are willingly ignorant and quite happy with the status quo
we seem to live in an age where with good media handling any scandal can be survived by a “popular” (powerful) man – cameron and key are testament to this (pigs and ponytails). Hopefully this won’t be the case for too long as the consequences for our nation and species are getting really really serious if we don’t enact real change
saying all that the opposition (labour) could do a shitload (understatement) more to present a valid alternative
Key will dish out as many lies as kiwis are prepared to lap up.
“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.”
Matthew 7: 13.
32 Lies today!
Thank you BLiP, What a wonderful compilation! Will link to it from my blog with gratitude for the awesome job you keep doing!
🙂
How about sending a copy of your ‘list’ to Bryce Edwards? I don’t read his political column on a regular basis because I’m sick of the inherent bias in what – and who -he chooses to highlight and his fence-sitting.
However it would be interesting to see what he did with it – if anything.
October 22, 2015 John Key had this to say in the Taranaki Daily News when last visiting the province.
” This summer is expected to be the biggest season in prospecting we’ve seen around NZ. These oil companies take a very long term view in determining where their supplies are.”
Regardless of your views on oil & gas exploration, his statement was a blatant lie. The summer of 2015/16 was never going to be a busy one for “prospecting”.
It seems like only yesterday that his government were using the province as their provincial flag bearer for creating the conditions for economic growth, i.e. high milk prices, oil exports returns were in the top five overseas earnings.
Oh dear, how the mighty have fallen.
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Heh!
https://youtu.be/AS1yJazsqr0
lol
good work BLiP as usual
my guess for the lie count today is 18
Perfect BLiP. Here’s another clip (unedited) that helps to clarify lies 137-141, or not:
PM John Key grilled on Fletcher’s appointment.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/national/news/video.cfm?c_id=1503075&gal_cid=1503075&gallery_id=131968
Thanks, BLiP, for the tally-keeping. What worries me about all this, is that many do not care. For instance, I listened to a RNZ vox pop survey yesterday on the TPPA. Most had no idea what the TPPA was.
The other lesson I had reinforced with your video of Key above- that the camera lies, as well. As with the vox pop, it’s all in the hands of the editor as to the truth or otherwise.
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FIRST – its not my video. I stole it off someone on Twitter.
And, yeah, the level of deliberate, almost belligerent, ignorance about the goings on of John Key and his National Ltd™ neoliberal thugs is amazing. I can’t understand it. My latest theory is that there are lots of reasons but one of the main ones is that National Ltd™ voters cannot or will not accept that they have been duped. I think its too embarrassing for them. The other reason is that, so far as I can tell, you could probably just squeeze a Zigzag paper between National™ and Labour policies; “they’re all liars and useless, better the devil you know”, and all that.
Lols, it’s in the Cassette Boy vein. Now many will surely be familiar with Cameron’s conference rap:
With our PM, we have plenty of material to hand over to Cassette Boy to create a similar video. Cameron and Key, are after all cut from the same CT cloth, right down to the samey sort of sloganeering, It would be very easy material for them to work with.
As for the reasonings behind the inertia of voters to accept Key and co’s state of affairs I would agree with this:
“My latest theory is that there are lots of reasons but one of the main ones is that National Ltd™ voters cannot or will not accept that they have been duped. I think its too embarrassing for them.”
Just looking at my immediate and extended family, that’s the truth of it. They’ve gone from fawning praise for Key, to embarrassed silence over the years. There really is an air of “don’t mention the war”. If I do mention anything political the atmosphere gets really tense with silent defensiveness. Very interesting to watch the changed behaviour.
@ Rosie
What do they think of Winston?
What do the family think of Winston? They don’t think. They are still in an FPP mindset and see just two flavours, red and blue.
They have been born and will die being Nat supporters so their minds are set like concrete. Voting NZ First wouldn’t even occur to them despite their discomfort with Key. It would be a radical act for them to vote for a minor party, as their party vote, because they don’t yet understand MMP. To sum up, they vote, they don’t think.
I do hope other Nat supporters with a bit more mental flexibility and curiosity may consider NZ First though. They have quite a bit to offer the conservative voter.
The first reason I prefer. There is a known phenomenon that voters like to have chosen the winner. From that, it follows that few like to admit that they were wrong with their choice.
Unless they’re angry at being betrayed, sold out, or conned.
The “Don’t vote, it only encourages them” meme has been around for a long time- since 1999 at least, when I heard it often. This is a view that gives the Right some advantage, since those right-leaning voters will generally always vote, as they know that politics, and its attendant power, does matter.
“They’re all the same” is a variant of this. I don’t believe in the zig-zag paper. There is a lot of difference between the major parties. Labour is yet to update and articulate its policies, but general positions are different from National on many issues. I know many on the Left believe otherwise.
It does suit the Right to have this view promulgated. Obviously, though, the more Left the Labour Party, the more it is differentiated from National, but the more the centrist voter is deterred. After eight years in opposition, Labour has had few chances to actually act on its beliefs as different as they are to National’s.
Where I come from, water quality is an issue in the south of this electorate. The Labour position at elections that I know about was that government money should be addressing this basic human necessity and right. At the moment, after
eight years of National, and a change of MP, nothing has happened. Too big for local bodies, especially when ECAN was neutered undemocratically- another big point of difference, surely.
That’s at one electorate level.
At national levels there are more big differences to be expounded- troops overseas, unemployment, student debt and cost of education, taxation, health, foreign involvement in our economy, the TPPA, housing both for the State and private sectors………….
The list verges well into the hysterical.
blip obviously does not know what constitutes a lie.
It follows the tradition of attacking Honest John Key and trying to make mud stick. Keep on compiling a list. Let me help you and give you a few from later today.
It’s nice to talk to you (LIE)
My government will help the poor with biggest benefit rise in a generation (LIE)
I had a good break and feel refreshed (LIE)
We have lots of exciting reforms to undertake this year (LIE)
we want to make it easier for people to buy a home (LIE)
Our troops are doing a good job in Iraq (LIE)
blah blah blah….
lol fi – now you’re getting into the swing of things
perhaps he could LIE down and expire.
I reckon he will win a 4th term in 2017 and a 5th in 2020 and a 6th in 2023. I reckon he will retire 2025.
You reckon he may have dictatorial ambitions?
Oh wait
No one is suggesting that lying your arse off isn’t an effective strategy in politics… just not a very admirable or helpful one.
fisiani, what do you have in your crack pipe which makes you such an optometrist…
Better an optometrist than a podiatrist, I always say
Better a podiatrist than a proctologist, I always say … and Lo, so it is, we come back full circle to fizzy ….
I love the way your follow-ups are always so relevant to your original comments, Fisi. XD
well, some of yours are just opinions, some are slogans
but this one
“My government will help the poor with biggest benefit rise in a generation (LIE)”
is actually a lie- as its a rise in the base benefit with claw backs in the top ups
cheers fisi
framu
Fisi is an ardent JK supporter, shares the same habits, hence the lies (BS).
Don’t for get the fact that the ratio of benefits to applicants has gone down to 18% along with reducing the number of registered unemployed to 250k by changing eligibility rules.
They may pay slightly more, but to a hell of lot less recipients, but fisi or jk won’t tell you that.
oh i know the game fisi plays – i know it very well
Excellent list Blip ……………. first time readers are always shocked by how much John Key lies ……………
It’s common knowledge that he lies ……. with less than one quarter of New Zealand now believing he is honest……
Fairfax-Ipsos August 2013–Leader Trust–Fully believe John Key ?: Yes 24%,
But most of the large majority of NZers who know Key is dishonest would be shocked at just how much he lies …………………….
Definitely the most dishonest PM we have ever had ……….
An appalling list of deceptions but not surprising Mr Key so well regarded and a genuine all round great bloke would tell the man or woman on the street that the sky was orange and they would look up and see exactly that. I always had the misconception that if u misled parliament it was a serious offence obviously not as he can lie get caught out and rush back and retract his statement to the house and all is forgiven his arrogance and contempt is horrifying. At least Richard Nixons crimes were exposed by people wanting and demanding the truth and a high standard of ethics that they believed should be exercised at all times how standards have changed .New Zealanders will eventually end their love affair but it will be too late.
alias, I think it is already too late. this currently run b/shitting,fascist govt have slowly been selling this country out and importing their own voters in to look after then.
Congratulations on fine work BLiP. Is it really 433 so far? Thats a lot of porkies even for a leader whose default setting is deception. I hear the sound of a lot of air being sucked through his teeth.
Yep… that sound is one of his tells…
To Rosie at 12 : The sucking – in – of- air- between- teeth particularly noticeable in parliamentary broadcasts has long concerned me.
I honestly wonder if this is one of the biggest mistakes, those who want to see National lose, make. I am by no means a fan of this government but I can’t help but think they learnt a lesson in their 9 years of opposition that the current opposition has not.
For the first two terms of the Clarke period National would try and attack her personally. Be it paintings, getting to rugby games or the not so direct rumours about her sexuality and marriage. None of this worked. Labour remained high in the polls. It wasn’t until the 3rd term where they switched and started attacking Labour as a whole and painting the entire party. This was seen with Light bulbs, shower heads and the whole Nanny State meme.
Why did this change work. Because most of the population has a negative impression of politicians as a whole. When you try and paint one as bad it is in relation to what is perceived as every one being bad. More than this people think of politics as being a bunch of kids misbehaving in parliament like they are in the school ground. Any attacks on each other outside of the house seem to be extensions of this and so not really important.
However if you paint a party as a group who will interfere in your life and impact on your rights well then you will start to get a turn in attitude. National learnt this.
So what do we see from current opposition. Attempts to try and paint a guy who seems like a normal decent sort of guy as evil. The most that is ever achieved is people think he is as bad as any other politician. Even if a truly huge scandal was to land, National could cut him loose, blame him as a solo bad person, and replace him with the next one in line. Continue to sell the message of steady as she goes and we won’t mess with you.
I suppose in summery I think more focus needs to go on negative impacts to the populace rather than why all the current government are such bad people. Yes John Key has told a lot of lies in his time. I think the last 7 years has shown that trying to yell this is not effective.
It strikes me more as impotent frustration than any sort of strategy.
“guy who seems like a normal decent sort of guy”
LOL.
That a great counter argument. Are you suggesting that he has not been successful at presenting an every day sort of guy persona?
Adopting a persona and being that type of person are two quite different things…. just like a Chinese Rolex is different from a real one….
Agree but you don’t have to be the person, just appear to be the person.
And National already have a response to any criticism aimed at them… “but Labour did it too!”
@Crashcart
Agree with what you’re saying, but the media was a lot more balanced then, now it’s the mouthpeice for the govt, it’s hard for any one with an opposing view to gain any traction as you well know, there aren’t many around today (reporters critical of the govt).
On I forgot to add a thankyou you to blip for keeping us informed.
Exactly Mosa. We must not close our eyes and ears, and BLiP helps us to be aware of the staggering mound of lies the Prime Minister of New Zealand has uttered. Thankyou BLiP, stirling work.
I think r0b was unfortunate’y spot on when he wrote in his post on January 25th about post reality based politics regarding Donald Trump and described Key as “another herald of this brave new world”
“Donald Trump Says He ‘Could Shoot Somebody’ and Not Lose Voters.
“They say I have the most loyal people — did you ever see that? Where I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn’t lose any voters.” he said. “It’s like incredible.” …”
Yes, it is incredible. And given the crap that Trump has put out there – all the while increasing his lead – it doesn’t even seem impossible…….
Trump knows that he has gone beyond an old fashioned reality-based politics of consequences and accountability, and that his supporters are so “loyal” that they will lap up anything. I think that John Key is another herald of this brave new world. ….”
A world devoid of truth, how hideous. (my words).
(Apologies, have forgotten how to enter gigantic quotation marks which would have made this comment clearer, will try and relearn for future.)
People are waking up and realising Key is a joke and the Natz are dangerous. The National strategy (which seems to be working so far) is to tie up the opposition in trivia and small projects with an onslaught of extreme changes, so that there is confusion and no massive co ordinated attack on the National party by opposition parties that reaches the public or dents them in any real way.
Well done BLIP and many thanks for reminding us of the fraudulent despot we have as our leader.
With what’s coming up in the immediate future you will be able to build on your stock pile of FJK lies.
TPPA signing
Final flag referendum
“prominent NZer’s court case coming up in April
Lies will be spewing from FJK’s mouth thick and fast within the next three months. You will be extremely busy.
john key lies because he has to. new Zealand is a house of cards that depends on john keys lieing powers to keep the ship afloat
No mate. Key lies because that’s his nature. Just like the old story of the scorpion and the frog:
http://www.aesopfables.com/cgi/aesop1.cgi?4&TheScorpionandtheFrog
So not a single one of Blips slurs have turned out to be a lie. Such a waste of time.
A bit like you trolling this blog every day of your wretched excuse for a life.
[lprent: Incorrect at two levels. If he was trolling then he’d be banned, I’m not exactly pleasant about that behaviour. Having a different opinion isn’t trolling, and when anyone’s behaviour steps over the line I or one of the other moderators would have a tendency to ban. ]
a lie can become the truth therefore it isn’t a lie any longer and vast majority zealanders are one with john key
Wrong again.
Even Goebbels understood that: ” the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State”.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/goebbelslie.html
cogito
Wrong again.
On both counts, it is not the vast majority who support JK, it’s down to 40%.
@Expat
You’re addressing your comment to the wrong guy, mate!!!!
the biggest MINORITY vote for Key/Nats ………………..
His high dishonesty ratings are a ticking bomb for the Nats .
Looks at how the people of Northland punished the Nats and Key for the lies they were told, causing their recent Sabin by-election ……………
agreed.
Not all the Nats buy into Key’s constant lying.
#208 link needs fixing
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Thank you. Fixed but won’t show properly until next time the full list is published.
My barrow aint big enough to carry all that around but if i give it ago the photo might be as famous as the one from the 30’s illustrating inflation of a worthless currency
Prediction of $70 US a barrel for oil this time next year, hows he goin to lie his way out of that one
Good to have the update, and thanks for all the work BLiP. A bit of feedback, the huge list of categories is distracting and creates unnecessary scrolling. It makes the front page today look esp bad.
The biggest problem with the Key govt is that they have continue their party’s agenda to destroy the power of the unions started by Bolgers govt and Roger Douglas
Also their stated aim to rid the country of socialism and communism as a founding principle of their party
All their politics is has that in it no matter what time of the day they front up
If any one sees that as democratic they got to be FITH
Key has Helen ,Goff ,and Shearer on side now. It’s a whitewash guys. You have failed.
Goff is leaving the National politics.
Clark is not even in the country.
Whitewash?? What nonsense.
What a load of shit this list is lol
WOW amazing work BLiP,
M head is just spinning. We’ve come a long way from the original list, and I’m beginning to wonder if we need to empty sewage tank soon.
Someone call in the kaka waka.
John Key says the majority of New Zealanders want the TPPA signed. This is a big fat lie because over 50% said no. Roughly 30% said yes and the rest don’t care on the poles.
Key’s biggest lie of all: his 1991 statement to the Equiticorp inquiry
Considering the list of his documented lies, probably.