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Open Mike 26/11/25

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  1. Kay 1

    Chris Bishop and his mob have zero concerns about the lives of new Zealanders because "it costs too much".

    Despite numerous close calls and a recommendation dating to the Wahine disaster inquiry, Transport Minister Chris Bishop has cancelled plans for a new emergency ocean-going tug capable of towing Cook Strait ferries to safety if they break down.

    “Put bluntly, the cost to taxpayers is too high for something that’s unlikely to be needed and unlikely to be useful even if it is,” Bishop says.

    Tax breaks to parties who definitely don't need them are too high and aren't particularly useful either.

    Despite numerous incidents in recent years, Bishop says the benefits would “only be realised in the top 1% of incidents” and only if the incident was not too far away from the tug.

    Heaven forbid the worst did happen (again). I can't see Bishop taking any responsibility for his decisions.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360898690/why-long-wait-new-cook-strait-tug-continues

    • tc 1.1

      Consistent from the haters n wreckers who have a real dislike for the cook straight service and seem to want to bugger it in a few different unsubtle ways.

      • dv 1.1.1

        Maybe anew law needed to allow criminal charges to be brought against MP that enable activity by laws that result in death

        • Res Publica 1.1.1.1

          I get the impulse, but that idea would run into some pretty serious constitutional and legal problems.

          1. Causation is basically impossible to prove fairly.

            You can’t build a workable test that links a death or injury solely to a law existing (or not existing). Real-world outcomes usually involve multiple contributing factors: operational decisions, funding choices, weather, human error, compliance, etc.

            Turning that into criminal liability for MPs would be arbitrary and politically weaponisable.

          2. It would collide with parliamentary privilege

            MPs are protected so they can debate and legislate without fear of prosecution for how they vote or what they say in the House. Criminalising legislative outcomes would gut that protection in practice, even if you tried to draft around it.

          3. It would undermine parliamentary sovereignty.

            Each Parliament has to be free to legislate as it sees fit, and successors must be able to change direction without inheriting criminal risk for prior policy settings. If MPs could be jailed later for the downstream effects of a law, it creates a massive chilling effect on law-making.

          If you want accountability for negligent or reckless decisions, the cleaner routes are political (elections, ministerial responsibility), or administrative (independent inquiries, Ombudsman, Auditor-General).

          Not criminalising MPs for how legislation plays out.

    • SPC 1.2

      After Wahine, ocean going tugs.

      In 2009, National replace them with cheaper harbour ones, not ocean going.

      In 2023, Labour start looking at restoring ocean going tugs after some events.

      In 2027, National says no. A temporary use of a leased ocean-going tug.

      Now nothing while running the old ships before 2029.

      He cites new tugs.

      Experts in the field, unlike someone expert in housing, transport, resource management and local government, say it is a bell curve – early (teething problems) and late life use is where the safety issue lies.

      2027-2030's interesting times – career ending.

  2. PsyclingLeft.Always 2

    You can take the Nat out of…..well actually, you cant. Ol' Double Dipper sir Bill hoping for some more future sweeet n easy advisory money.

    30 with Guyon Espiner: Sir Bill English believes Christopher Luxon will lead National to election victory

    The fucker is ideologically purblind…

    Speaking to 30 with Guyon Espiner, the former Finance Minister said the government has done a "remarkably good job", adding that Prime Minister Luxon, Winston Peters and David Seymour all deserve credit for what they have achieved.

    "They've got an equilibrium, and I'm making those comments not just as a former politician, but sitting outside it, involved in running businesses, involved with a wide range of New Zealanders.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/580011/30-with-guyon-espiner-sir-bill-english-believes-christopher-luxon-will-lead-national-to-election-victory

    No more of this shit….Kick NAct1 out 2026 !

  3. SPC 3

    Anyone else note that Luxon's government and his former employee – the POA boss are singing different tunes?

    One claims the car industry is in crisis, so the government had to relax rules and allow more petrol cars with higher emissions levels.

    The other claims there are plenty of cars coming in (and coal) – to show the economy is booming.

    The clue is in the POA boss’s comment that CityRailLink was rubbish and it was more important to host cruise-liners at the port.

    (An opinion shared by Wayne Brown and the Taxpayers Union).

    https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/360897170/auckland-port-boss-why-world-calls-us-no-zealand

  4. SPC 4

    National has plan to reduce youth unemployment during their second term.

    Stop paying the dole to middle class family children under 20 – these families can afford to send them over to Oz for a job.

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/shows/1news-special-you-me-the-economy/episodes/s1-e1

  5. Hunter Thompson II 5

    It's depressing reading submissions made by the public against the proposed amendments to the Fast-track legislation (available on the Parliament website at https://bills.parliament.nz/v/6/b59b6261-1db3-47a5-7dc9-08de1a89278c?lang=en&Tab=sub).

    Some people are writing as if the legislation can go ahead with a bit of adjustment, when in my view it should be shelved completely. The Bill is anti-democratic and driven by a few politicians who seem to want to do big favours for their mates in the business community.

    No doubt the backers of the Bill want to "get the country back on track" but they always omit to state where that track will take us.

  6. SPC 6

    Base Rate UK 4%, OCR Oz 3.6%. A Fed Res cut to 3.50% to 3.75% is expected.

    It is now 2.25% here.

    Is inflation lower in New Zealand, or is the economy so weak it needs to be nursed along?

    It said inflation – which is at the top of the RBNZ's 1-3 percent target band – was expected to ease back given the spare capacity in the economy.

    How cute, they think spare capacity will constrain wage demand etc.*

    More will go to Oz.

    As for the actual inflation – tell it to those managing water assets, insurance risk, power distribution, investment in generation and profit-making for shareholders.

    *Outweighed by the weak dollar.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/579440/why-the-new-zealand-dollar-has-plunged-to-13-year-lows

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/580066/official-cash-rate-cut-to-2-point-25-percent

    The RB as the Keynesian economist of last resort for failing C of C government.

    https://www.tickaroo.com/e/Gk0wILnB27PXosh5

  7. The Chairman 7

    What is a Shubz you may ask?

    He's a political vlogger grabbing attention.

    He claims to be something different that has come to shock the system.

    Some love him and it seems some want to kill him.

    Personally, I think he can be funny at times and has some interesting things to say.

    So (if you haven't already) meet Shubz in the links below.

    Warning, he may shock you.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MLvz-GK9RZM

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